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Wow you're a piece of shit
Having kids is tough, how do you know they are using them as excuse?
This is very offensive!!! It's constant struggle for mom & dad to spend time with kids and work. There is time I don't see my kids for week at a time!!! But when my kids are sick, they have some special thing going on at school , I will be with my kid . Think back when you were kid when your mom or dad miss your play or musical orchestra. How did you feel? There are little things that count. I have seen so many parents working at 2-3 in morning when I am online trying to catch up on my work which I miss so I spend measly 1-2 hours with my kids. It doesn't mean you put your face time at work leave at 10 or 12 and don't see us parents online doesn't mean we are not doing our part. You will only understand when you will have your own kids. You will say why not leave Big 4 , because it's NOT only place for single people.
@ey2 the point was: focus on your performance and efficiency rather than tracking who leaves when.
Sounds like a statement from an uppity 24 year old that has devoted his/her life to kissing ass and putting everything second to career. Don't be mad. Take care of your own. Because you are said 20something year old, more than likely with no life other than Netflix and occasional social outings, you have no real responsibility and thus can afford to work more.
Oh and a couple other things to PWC 2. I'm not blaming the parents, I'm simply commenting on a culture I've witnessed while at EY. BTW I worked throughout college and paid for it myself. I'm 28 years old and I worked hard at school to get this job and have worked hard to keep it and get good ratings/promotions. Identifying areas a workplace can be improved is not "whining" it's an appropriate response when someone feels their contributions are not being recognized the same as others.
It's easy to see there's a lot of silver spoons and children who have yet to experience real struggle. Not all, but many. Parents paid for their car, university education, and everything else. All I hear are complaints on daily about the job and work requirements and now about parent's flexibility compared to their own. You aren't really mad at parents, you're mad that you work a lot. Period. The parents just give you a scapegoat. Others' hours don't drive your bonus or pay or promotion. If anything they help you in those areas. Quit bitching and man up. Nothing but a bunch of whiny little kids. Bob said average age of PwC personnel is 27. That goes to show that the average PwC employee is a child as most came from an environment where they had most of what they wanted and didn't have to worry about anything except studying. Realize that more shit goes on than what's in your little world of corporate kiss ass and immature views of what's fair and what isn't.
I agree. We all make the same amount, the fact that you have a family doesn't give you a free pass. (I'm a woman BTW.)
@pwc1 I think it's interesting that you automatically assume I'm slow if I stay at work longer than my co-workers with families. That doesn't make any sense but thanks for taking it there.
I feel you, OP. People in an uproar are probably the ones who do this. In my group, those with families leave during the early afternoon all the time and WFH late for a few hours. It's more understandable with young children, but when your kid is 16....they can wait for a parent to get back at 6 PM instead of 3 PM (esp when spouse is a school teacher). Really frustrating when so much work is left for lower levels to do - even though higher levels are just as obligated - and they are getting paid more. Every group is different, but management heavily relies on the younger non-family folks in my group to accomplish tons of work. It's definitely frustrating. I bust 12 hours a day and get lots done, which management sees at least, but they don't do anything to change it. Anyway, this is definitely reflected during annual performance so I'm not upset enough to stir the pot. Management awards fairly but (shockingly) manages work distribution poorly. I'd rather work be fairly distributed and quality speak for itself than the current situation.
I agree. Your kids, your responsibility. Don't use it as an excuse to put more work onto others who choose not to have kids. You should be treated the same in a position, no matter if you have family or not. It's understandable that life happens but people definitely overuse it.
I would never say Big 4 is only a place for single people but I would say the playing field should be level. If you're going to give some people flexibility, give it to everyone. That's only fair.
Agree with OP. I've seen it happen over and over again, at least in a smaller office. People w/ kids getting special treatment. Singles expected to work later and more likely to have to travel. It gets better with promotions as you can define your own schedule. As unfair as it is you just gotta live with it cause as you can see in the responses here, saying something causes vitriol from those who think singles have nothing to do in their personal life.
@ey2, i am pretty sure the managers and seniors on the job know that better than you, so don't blame people with families if you take longer to finish your work.
I think the point that was trying to made was people use flexibility to see their families, but don't do their part and aren't reliable/transparent. I had a manager who abused flexibility to the point she was MIA and unavailable 99% of time.
@pwc1 I don't track who leaves when, I don't have to when it's so obvious. The rest of the team is working until midnight and one of our staff leaves at 10pm for "daddy duty."
Flexibility is not given. It is taken.
That is why i decided to have 2 kids, stop complaining!!!!
Getting pissed cause your manager left when you are a staff is garbage. If a fellow senior leaves at 2 for his baby, he needs to hire a sitter. If you are pissed cause your mgr isn't confirming cash with your lazy ass, you don't understand hierarchy.
@ey2 you stated that you work 24/7....therefor,e it is a fact that you are slow and suck at your job