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I applied with EY for a Senior Manager role I had my first stage interview with a senior manager, which I thought went well as I got the partner interview 2 weeks later, and said I'll be contact within 10 day HR. This did not happen so I chased up. Today I received feedback from HR stating that the senior manager, who would have been my peer, said I didn't have enough experience. But the partner who I would have been working under did like me.
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Apply right away. Do not wait too long if you are unhappy. Granted you have not given the job a chance but just know if you want to go to big law it will be the same. There will be a lot of trial by fire.
Run. It sounds like no one there could train you even if they tried. Don't waste your time trying to learn a new practice area with no one to learn it from. I spent a year on this only to be pushed out by the firm because the practice area I was trying to start wasn't instantly profitable -and I wish I could have that time back.
Give it a little time. Exposure is good training. Try
To find non-billable opportunities to observe others and follow up with your supervisor if things have not improved in a couple of months. You will be surprised what you can learn by being included and listening. If it’s truly not a good fit, you will know after 6 months or so. That said, never a bad idea to have your resume updated if the right opportunity presents itself. Good luck!
No one really means they will train, the hours they work are for money and clients. You have to go out of the way to self-teach and shadow.
Agree we need to do as much as possible for ourselves but there are lots of things we need input on so it also has to be a two way street.
Is there a listserv you could join with attorneys in your practice area? I’ve found these to be incredibly helpful in a pinch. Bonus, you’d be showing your supervising attorney (and more importantly, yourself) that you will do what you can to figure things out as they come, despite your not getting great training.
I may being a bit harsh here, but I think it’s truthful: No job in law -BigLaw or not is going to train you in the way that I am reading you want to be trained. I would advise taking a hard look at what you truly want to do and go after it without the expectation that anyone will help you. From there, make connections, apply to jobs (or keep this one but be bold with seeking out strategic connections), do CLE/PLI/other training courses in your practice area, and start building your brand. People love helping those that help themselves first or that they see as a value add. Good luck!
Everyone’s feelings are valid. But again -“no job in law is going to train you in the way that I am reading you want to be trained.” - whether they told you that during the interview or not. I think that’s the harsh reality most folks have had to learn along the way.
out of curiosity were you guys on the same page for what that training would specifically look like?
He verbally walked me through the first 6 month training plan (lots of shadowing and shoulder to shoulder training) when I expressed my insecurities about a career transition. We agreed on this plan and he repeated it when negotiating my offer.
I got to work and had a different experienc. I tried talking to my boss but he brushed me off and said he was stretched too thin. I asked another attorney at the firm with two years' experience for advice. He said that I was mislead.