I'm an EY Manager. Got an offer at Consultant at McKinsey for $25k more. Would you take it for a demotion in title? Also, I've heard mixed reviews on culture. Any insight?

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I would take it. 10 years down the line you won't know the title difference but it is a great brand name and that does mean something :)

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Great advise here. McK is a huge step above EY. Got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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This is a no brainer. I ihad an offer there but it was for far less money (40k) - and I still seriously considered it. Title is irrelevant. You will start as an associate and work your way up with rapid opportunity to increase income.

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D2 - I worked for Deloitte, I grew up there, and I think you have an unrealistic view of first what McK can do versus Deloitte, then what the McK model is.

First revenue is important but Deloitte is no where near as profitable. Deloitte offers a lot of technical implementation aervices and then tax/audit.

The margins in those are no where near what McK commands and they are developing true digital strategy now which commands more profitable rates. Why invest in an offering when they can get a much higher ROI.

Tax/audit in 15 years, are estimated to be worth 30% of what they are now.

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EY 8 the only reason Deloitte is higher in that ranking is the fact that they have more employees that throw the bullshit vote in

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At McK 1- lay off the Coolaid and elaborate as to why the analogy is off- last 3 projects of mine have been thx to bad advise from McK

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Look. I like ey. I think we can add value. It's not McKinsey. Pretending on average it is of the same quality is ridiculous.

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All firms mess up and all firms also play scapegoat when execs screw up

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Take the $$! More money. Less responsibility.

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Made the jump from Deloitte to Mckinsey - do it.

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Out of curiosity -- what would the day-to-day job description for a McK consultant be? My guess is that you probably are just as client-facing (if not more so) as a manager at EY. Won't have as many junior people below you-- but I'd imagine their support staff are better. But I am guessing... Would be nice to get this confirmed.

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Can EY compete with MCK in a few areas, kind of. We have people who are solid but we aren't close to them in depth and they have name recognition for a reason. My first in office interview was with a woman who had just graduated from Penn, Med, not Wharton but an actual MD. They have depth and breadth that we can't fathom in the Big4.

Agreed, for the most part titles don't matter. I've met people with titles that don't measure up. If your new role includes things you want to do and the salary is what you want.. Make the move.

It'd be tough for me to leave for any opportunity that was less than 20% raise, to each his own though

If you look at Vault rankings, Deloitte is the top in ops consulting where McK is 2. You have the advantage in technical implementation and in consulting, thats where Deloitte is the true leader.

McK = A chef who never taste's the food made. EY can be better if you envision career in consultancy, will agree with most here that if Industry is your end game, then McK brand will work better.

You're analogy's off d757p. Please don't misrepresent a firm you don't understand.

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EY5 - Deloitte is higher in the ranking because they committed to being good at operations. They pay more and train more. They make sure their consultants know the process and functions and then the technology that supports it. They focus on the result the client wants.

Pay more. Train more. Make sure you have smart and educated talent who can do the job that the client is paying them to do. Be one throat to choke.

EY hasn't even asked the right question yet in this space and the leadership making the decisions, doesn't know what their people are actually delivering.

We're all just little minions making big $ for the partners

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