I'm in Silicon Valley, and been in the industry for about 15 years now. Fell into the corporate in-house role and been in those ever since. I primarily do marketing/brand design. I'd love to get to AD level, but I think my main issues has been that I rock the boat a lot and don't play the "corporate game well", piss off the wrong people. Does anyone have any advise for how to advance in corporate environement while keeping the integrity of creative alive?

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Nope, but if you figure it out, please let me know 😂

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HA! For sure!

Both “Difficult Conversations” and “Crucial Conversations” tackle this subject well.
Also, “survival of the savvy” is a good book for getting a framework for handling internal politics.

Overall, I realized that it is not an option in the real world to avoid or be blind to politics - unless you are working completely alone and have literally nobody else to report to you or to report to. So if you don’t play the game, it will play you.

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Thanks for the book advise! I'll definitely check it out!

Do all the boring stuff but then give an alternative that’s more your style. Point out how it’s better by comparing it to the competition instead of justifying why it’s better. You’ll look like you are making creative collective decisions all while really rocking the boat. So, continue to rock the boat but blame it on the waves.

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Good stuff! Thanks!

When I worked in-house the only way to get ahead was to make friends with the right people and embrace the corporate culture. I couldn’t do either so I left.

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Yeah I feel that. :/

People who manage ( Managers ) or Lead ( leaders ) , People, money, clients, takes risks etc would reach at the top and earn more. Any other task single handed, the creative task unfortunately falls into this would never fetch the position or incentives like the manager.

You can either create ( new stuffs, enjoy the process but not earn much )
or
Manage ( boring task, important, and earn a lot ).

Exception to all this is when you start on your own and take bigger risk

( at-least try once for an year , am sure you must have accumulated that many paid leaves)

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