I’m just over a year in at a plaintiff’s PI firm doing mostly medmal. Numerous successes, including wins on motions and generated a few clients. I just looked at Robert Half, and the low end for my experience/location is $74k base salary. I’m not making anywhere near that. A couple of questions: is Robert Half’s salary guide accurate? If so, how should I go about approaching my boss about compensation? Note: no one received a salary increase/annual bonus due to covid to my knowledge.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Threaten to go to a med mal defense firm unless they start giving you a cut of the action on successful cases. Lower salaries are normal for plaintiffs lawyers but I would expect at least a bonus if not a % cut of a successful contingency for cases you work on. Either that, or higher base salary. I don’t see a reason to skimp you. At least in my jx, med mal plaintiffs lawyers are swimming in money.

like

Tell them if it weren’t for the pay that you’d never want to leave! That sounds convincing to me. It’s hard to find good med mal associates because the work is so experience based. And even harder to find good associates that also bring in business. You deserve at least a small piece of the contingency pie or a base salary raise.

like

I am wondering the same thing myself- making nowhere near that, but I receive 1/3 of the law firm’s 1/3 for the cases that I settle, and 1/2 of the firm’s 1/3 for cases that I bring in myself. However, I don’t get that extra compensation until I make the firm $100k in settlements. Wondering if that sort of annual threshold is normal, especially compared to the lower salary. I’m at a small firm in a big city and only a first year attorney, if that makes a difference.

like

At least you're getting something on cases you settle (eventually). I only get a % of cases I bring in, but I am closer to the salary in the original question (though in NY, HCOL area)

like

Are you a first year associate or in your first year in this firm? Is it a big plaintiff's firm or a small one? If you were a first year associate, particularly at a small office, I would say 75k is not unreasonably low. Compensation in the early years of plaintiff's work is generally lower than defense jobs but the upward trajectory is better plaintiff's side as you progress. If you are bringing in clients you should be getting between 1/3 and 50% of the fee on those cases. And you should expect (in non covid times) a yearly bonus on top of your salary.

like

I am a few months post first year. Our firm has roughly a dozen attorneys.

In my experience, the base salary means less than what your cut is on the cases you win. Are you thinking you’re on the low end of compensation based on your total take home pay, or just your base salary? If it’s just your base, but you make good money on the cases you win, I’d let it go.

So right now it’s the general low intake overall. I don’t get any percentage of the cases I resolve that I haven’t personally generated.

I would frame it as you want to sit down and discuss the year for a performance and salary review. Say you're hoping that you can do this every year or so. It'll allow him/her to reflect on your value beforehand and then the salary discussion comes up as well. But be prepared to explain why you think you're worth X and if they have issue with it then ask what you're not doing now that would allow you to receive X. If you're creating significantly more value than your salary they should consider it because you've established your worth and retraining or hiring someone else is a roll of the dice.

Great advice. Thank you!

Where is everyone working that’s responding here?

College town Florida, 70 base, 25% origination on my referrals, quarterly bonuses based on performance but not transparent cut of cases settled. Been able to grow income by about 15-25% each year for 3 years networking my butt off. I’m at about 140 now take home with a great work life balance. I’d trade a lower base for higher % on origination and/or % of all settlements. Gives you motivation to work the firms cases not just go out and find your own

Related Posts

Have anyone done contracting negotiations before? I've interviewed for co A & B and co A extended an offer today. The offer does not meet my current salary. Co B's interview structure is 3 rounds and I've finished my 2nd round today. The recruiter mentioned that since I am a contractor my current salary is incomparable as they will provide benefits, etc. Is this true? I have 2 yrs of contracting HR exp from fortunate 500 co’s & OMW to get my SHRM-CP. Appreciate your advice in advance.

like

Am I underpaid? Analytics Sr. Consultant (semi-technical role) w/ 8 YOE, age 31 - Austin, Tx. With Finance BA and Econ MA from mediocre University. Salary-$90k, no bonus/stock/etc.

like

Pharma industry could really do itself a lot of PR favors by responding well to COVID

like

Do you tell recruiters your actual salary when they ask or go a bit higher? Feel like mine is below market

like

Hi all - I am trying to find 3rd party verification partners who support Covid test checks. Anyone have any information or companies/software that does that?

like

Applying for managing consultant role in Cross country consulting. Recruiter asked for the desired salary. Is there anyone who knows the range for this position?

like

Any tips for negotiating salary?

like

Salary and benefits check for Amazon BI Engineer L5?

like

Any mom's here who remember their first trimester? Anything you stopped doing, eating or drinking? Obviously the basics like alcohol, smoking, caffeine, raw seafood, flaxseed, rosemary, etc. Family is very cautious is driving me insane. Between covid restrictions and baby restrictions, I feel like I'm in jail. Suburban cycling ban and all-bran are the latest drama.

like

To anyone who’s been forced to travel during this time - has anyone travelled with delta? How are the flights, lounges, etc. How have they scaled back operations in response to covid? Did you feel safe?

like

I made a reservation for my family at JW Marriott in India and they found someone dirty clothes and underwear near lamp in the room, the Marriott people came and cleaned the room and offered free dinner I feel really terrified where on their website they say we clean do well and this happened with COVID going on. Should they compensate me with points?

like

Can anyone share your successful salary negotiation strategies for L6 product manager for Amazon? Seems like a very wide band. NY based

like

What’s a reasonable salary range for a high performing advisory senior in the SE?

like

Hi Pwc India fishes, Can you please tell what is the salary range for manager role ? Thanks in advance.

like

For those in relationships: What’s your age and how often do you and your SO text/talk on the phone? I’m assuming if y’all live with one another y’all will prob text very little on a daily basis (pre-covid).

like

McK fish - What's the comp range for Associate/Sr Associate in Supply Chain, coming in as experienced hire? Considering Seattle office if that matters

like

Trying to decide between two portfolio ops roles, both in the Bay Area: Small-ish VC firm, ~135k base + 35k bonus Medium PE firm, ~115k base + 115k bonus Which would you choose? I’m leaning towards the PE firm bc it’s more hands-on, faster learning curve, and higher TC, but the VC role seems to have a better WLB and generally sounds cooler (getting exposed to VC vs continuing in the corporate world). What do you think?

like

What are your thoughts on RSM consulting? Specifically on compensation, WLB, exit opps, and types of work.

like

What's the difference between a Senior Program Manager and a Manager, Program Management at Amazon? What's the comp breakdown?

like
likefunny

Additional Posts

How is AMEX’s culture, pay and interview for product management?

like

How different is the role of an Art Director at an agency vs. client side? Currently finishing up an internship & I am interested switching to art direction.

like

Have started studying for the CFP. Any advice out there?

like

I've been working at a company for 3 years and I still don't have a lot to put on my book. I keep telling myself that new opportunities will be just around the corner if I just chip away at it and keep doing the menial work + give out initiatives. I give up. I'm not getting any offers from other agencies, but I'm planning to quit without one. I try not to compare myself to peers who've exited with awards and are now getting paid way more than me. Worst case is I'lbe chilling for months. Idc anym

like

If my company doesn’t match 401k at all, should I pull the ~$4k out (with whatever fees that incurs for early) to fill 2020 & 2021 Roth IRA allocations before deadline is up?

like

Do you think parental leave policies and the culture around it at your company are fair?

like

I used to sleep 7 hrs a night, but lately I’ve been interviewing places which has raised my stress levels by a lot. Currently sleep 4-5 hrs a night. I got a good job offer but I still can’t get to the sleeping hours I was comfortable with. Has anyone else had this? Any advice?

like

I got rolled onto a project right out of onboarding, but I don’t have the skills for this role. Should I embrace a grueling 6 months or consider speaking to my manager about rolling off?

like

How do you all handle stress at work? I’m on a though project and feeling sort of hung out to figure it all myself. My stomach is in knots and I’m waking up in the middle of the night thinking about the case.

like

Flying home to Boston tomorrow, praying my flight doesn't get cancelled 🙏🏻

like

I fly a lot. What’s a good credit card for that?

like

Which organization can pay more than 25 lpa for Salesforce developer. Right now I'm having TOE 3 YEARS and TC 18 LPA.

like

Hi Guys I was wondering - PwC India / PwC SDC / Deloitte USI - Do they sponsor full time MBA for employees? If yes, what are the probable terms?

like

Excel is hard

funnylikeuplifting

Just here to complain - taking the bar tomorrow (firm is requiring me). I moved apartments and had surgery this month. Also been busy with work (obviously). I’m pretty tired. My husband works part time Thursday through Saturday. And he doesn’t really help around the house or pay for household expenses. He does do the cooking. He just got mad the puppy was barking and left. I’m feeling really unsupported trying to manage all this.

like

Hi all The CPE courses that i pursued on june 30 got credited to next fiscal year I raised a complaint to the us learner team and they reverted my credit points back to be compliant as of june 30th 2021 Today am shockingly getting an emAil that i am non compliant. In the system, my points have been again moved to next fiscal year Please advice what to do. I have emailed them. But there is no phone number to seek help

Hi fishers, can I have small favour to give me likes so that I can activate my DM..

like

I have an employee who is very sick with COVID (on life support in the ICU). I would like to do something to support his wife; they have 2 young kids & she’s expecting; I’m sure the stress on her is exhausting. Any suggestions for what would be helpful and appreciated? This is more complicated because they were out of town & he was hospitalized out of state, so it is hard for us to get anything to them in person. Also, I’m concerned about his team members and would love ideas to support them

helpfullike

Anyone have a consulting services sales training they recommend taking? Or books to read?

like

Do managers get raises based on their teams weekly billable hours?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

Get realtime notifications and see
what's happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.