Is up or out a real thing at DELOITTE? Is there like a general mark for each level for how long you can stay at that level before having to be promoted or laid off? More curious for the M and SM level

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Up or out is always going to be the fall back position. All it takes is a slight downturn in the business and they will start “cleaning house” to make way for younger (cheaper) resources. Happens every 7 to 8 years. Just make sure you have a Plan B in place.

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I think they are trying to move away from the up or out model, or at least be more flexible. See: Specialist and delivery tracks in addition to traditional.

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For manager I would say your safe for the most part but SM the gloves come off for better or worse. You are in a vital position at this stage so it's more up in the air, based on firm office/economy/politics/etc. I feel like this goes for all big 4 though, not just Deloitte (NYC).

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@GT to be fair those were the dark days, all firms cutting noses then

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Not at Deloitte but a partner at my office has said they aren’t opposed to someone staying as a career senior if they want to. I think the same would apply to Managers too, maybe not SM though.

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