I've been on multiple high burn engagements for the past few months. My associate tells me today "I am not myself today after one late night". I say to this little one "that's cute".

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Don't take your shitty experience out on the young ones

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If you managed well they wouldn't have a late night of work. Managers like you piss me off. Late nights are not a right of passage, they are a direct reflections on your ability to manage. When you manage/lead well, you and your team have a better W/L balance and they want to work for you in the future. That turns into better client satisfaction bc you have a solid team which means more $.

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Empathy can be learned

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Omg you work a lot that's so cool!

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When I've led a work steam and/or been engagement manager, I've done my best to get my guys out at reasonable hours with no weekend work. Sometimes before a deliverable a due a late night or two is inevitable, but constant late nights is a reflection of the team's ability to divide/conquer and manage work. And then slamming an associate for confiding in you while singling saying he or she is burnt out is a classless move.

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My engagements were actually good. I enjoyed it. But these new juniors these days are complaining after one late night of work. Get ur work done!

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Some ppl on this app are so soft.

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I think there's a difference between a manager forcing everyone to stay late for a power trip and when there is a client ask or deadline we need to meet. For me, I just want to know that you're able to stay late when the situation calls for it. What drives me nuts are the ones who just dismiss themselves at 5:30 without any consideration for me or the rest of the team.

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You need to manage the work stream a little better man. If I have to make people stay that's on ME, not them. Good help is hard to find. Stop scaring it away.

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D4, millenials are plenty tough- they just don't care for the tough act. They know they have to be globally competitive, keep updating skills and that may still not be enough

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I'm with OP. There are many underscoped projects and then it's on the manager to get it delivered. I bet most of you who complain about managers are level below. No one understands the stress levels the manager is under when you are responsible for getting the job done. If the project goes south he'll get dinged not the associate / sr associate under him. The manager can only hope for are competent people who are committed to getting the job done. Amen

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@D1 and @A1, love how you two jump to a conclusion. I can see how a manager can get blamed for such scenario. However, will love to hear how you two manage an individual that may not be performing at the expected level. I've given this individual one task to focus on, and provide guidance everyday. Trying managing someone like this on a two week engagement.

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@d1, you talk about W/L balance. I've provided this person adequate W/L balance on a two week engagement, along with plenty of support and guidance. If that person can't perform and get one assignment done, does that automatically become the manager's fault?

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So bad management from the top is flowing down to people below. Yes, that's a badass skill set to become accustomed to propogate. Temporarily I get it...embrace the suck...but it sounds like this is cultural now

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Okay let's try plain English since you can't read into what I'm saying: ask yourself what you as a leader can do to help this person feel more comfortable and how BEST to use their skill even if it means shifting tasks. Show you're open and get on the same page. Blaming them and berating them will get you nowhere. You've obviously been taught with a tough hand...don't perpetuate that. You may be able to influence someone's behavior with authority, but you'll never change their mind with authority.

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The more I read, the more I am with D1

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I'm with M1. It depends how late tho and ultimately even if you want them to learn you may need to assign them another task.

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I'm a millennial and I agree that my generation needs to suck it up a bit more BUT the ultimate role of a y manager is to distribute resources efficiently and effectively. These resources in your case would be your team and their hours. If you are getting them to work late, that's on you.

I've had to work late for this manager for the past 3 weeks. I haven't complained yet but I won't be working with this guy anymore. I'm a good performer at my office and have had 1 ratings since I joined 3 years ago.

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I'm sorry OP, you can redirect this all you want but at the end of the day YOU are being the "millennial" and not taking responsibility. Your "guidance" is likely backhanded and vague. Also, the tasks you are delegating are likely not to the person who is the best at accomplishing them. Part of being a good leader is knowing who on your team is good at what. Whoever is not performing 🙄 either doesn't know how to do the tasks at all or, through your micromanaging, loses motivation. Be the bigger person here and step back, be introspective, and support your team.

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I'm shocked so many ppl are ragging on OP. Have none of you had to work a long day or two on an engagement to meet a deadline? It's even more likely on a short-term engagement. A few long days is inevitable in this career... We get paid very well, and most ppl at the junior levels aren't worth even half of it...they've essentially fallen into this +$70k a year lifestyle at 23 yrs old without having to do shit for it besides get drunk in college and get lucky at a job fair.

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