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cont. from above: net junior partner pay $1.0m, senior partner net pay 2.3m+. It would require moving to a different city in the same state, which I'm fine with. The boutique firm only has offices in this state. The major issue is that my spouse wants us to move out of this state in the next 2-3 years and go somewhere more blue as far as politics. Our current city is blue, but red/purple-ish state. Post-Dobbs, reproductive rights are bad and LGBTQ+ rights are probably going to get worse (spouse is Queer). I entirely see their point of view but at the same time this is a LOT of money (potentially) to leave on the table. What do I do here? Looking for advice/suggestions/etc.
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I agree moving for state politics is dumb especially in a state are large as Texas where the local governments of the metro cities are progressive.
You’re saying 6 years until the potential for partnership? That’s quite a ways out and in no way guaranteed. I’m guessing you can’t wait that long. But also, why wait 2-3 years? Move now and be happy together.
My thought is that I would need 2-3 years experience in private practice to be able to lateral to another state. My previous job was a state regulatory role so while I'm familiar with state law issues, learning big picture stuff applicable to other states/federal issues would take a bit of time, in my opinion.
If you are really interested in your friend’s firm, just let them know the above and negotiate as part of your move that you can work remotely for the firm and just come in for business meetings/firm events. Smaller firms sometimes are better at accommodating special arrangements, my spouse works at a smaller firm now and several partners live permanently in other cities and they just come in as needed, if at all.
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I’m a little confused.
How much are you making now? Cravath scale? What year level are you considered at your current firm/how many years away is potential partnership? What would your day 1 income be at the boutique/what year level would you be going in at? I wouldn’t put too much weight on offers of high-paying partnership 5 years from now, that’s no kind of guaranty of anything. Are you sure you can’t make partner in 5 years in biglaw? It’s so far away! Do you hate/dislike your biglaw job and want to get out?
How does your spouse feel about having more household income vs living in a place that better aligns with your values? What type of job/income do they have? Are you the primary bread winner? If they’re saying to you “we have enough money now and I already don’t see you enough and I actively hate living here”, then I would acknowledge their feelings and viewpoint and also acknowledge that you’re the one who wants more money/more advancement in your career (nothing wrong with wanting more personally but the acknowledgment that it’s you would help I imagine) and either go with what they want because they are one half of your partnership or talk them into why it’s better for you as a couple to stay in the state where you are and what you can do with the increased income (retire early? Pay for kids private school? Nicer home? Bimonthly house cleaner? Nicer vacations?)
Would you be a good candidate for a biglaw job in wherever you want to live? How about your spouse in their chosen career? Is wherever you want to live HCOL where you’d have to significantly downgrade your lifestyle? How does your spouse feel about that?
At A3: ok well I’m a glorified staff attorney then. But this is the path every attorney from my agency has taken when joining this firm in my practice area. It’s probably not right but they are likely taking advantage of the fact that at my old job folks with 7 years experience were barely breaking 98k.
All the folks here have taken this same path and made associate/partner after a 2/5 years respectively. I guess that have a weird way of doing things is all.