Partners - how have you combated the delay in development of junior employees since offshoring has become so popular. Not hating on offshore but I feel like it’s killing associate development.

likesmart
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

The real delay in junior practitioner development is because of the rise of virtual work and limited opportunities to observe others. Offshore has nothing to do with it.

likesmart

💯

like

My offshore team now teaching and coaching my people which is amazing

likeupliftingfunny

Off shore is not your competition. If something can be done for $30 an hour, you don’t want to be doing it.

It’s like comparing chopping food to being a chef. Food prep is incredibly important and a restaurant cannot do without it, but you’re not going there because the food is chopped right. You’re going there because the chef, food, and customer service are great.

like

It’s not how it’s chopped. It’s understanding what foods are in season then, which ingredients come together, being able to see what’s good and bad during the prep, and learning from the food prep experience that makes a good chef. Being a chef just isn’t taking prepped food and making it. Anyone can take the same couple of ingredients and cook it, but it’s going to taste differently based on the chef and their experiences pulling it together.

Offshore does have a negative effect. Mistakes won’t be picked up on as quickly or easily because those in the chain that should recognize the issues, won’t. They won’t learn the nuances of the work because they aren’t given the opportunity.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Who cares? Offshore is so cheap…..easier to sell at attractive prices versus using onshore.

likeuplifting

Offshore is cheap, like 1/10th the cost so unless a new grad here can work as hard as 10 in India, they have to have other skills

like

Hmm. Noone is killing anyone’s role. Offshore and onsite teams are expected develop different skills and provide value-add at diff areas

Coach your US team on client facing & presentation skills, finance, project management, functional expertise, solution design, architect etc.

Your offshore will continue to get better more hard skills like development, deployments, CICD, devOps type areas and more..

Each of them should know other skill set at least to low/medium level. So there is a lot to learn and coach.

like

I’d says that’s coincidental timing to virtual work. Both probably contribute. But we all grew up with a development model that involved sitting next to people. We haven’t evolved the learning model

like

Related Posts

Can anyone speak to the analytics team within HIA at PwC? Good capability, culture, and people overall? Considering a move.

like

Hello everyone - tmrw is my Managing Partner round for Accenture Middle East any/all insights will be super helpful (it could get technical too) as I read through Reddit as well..

like

Interested in everyone’s opinions on replica luxury. I ask because, as noted in the previous thread re: Chanel’s price increases, the quality of authentic luxury bags is going way down while the price increases consistently. Specifically Chanel and LV. I’m fascinated in the online rep community and it looks like rep quality has increased exponentially (with genuine materials and 1:1 markings, stitching, hardware, etc). What’s your argument for or against replicas?

like

Hi Qualys folks, How is job security in Qualys ?
In case recession comes ?

like

Anyone else think big end of day drop? Scary weekend to hold long through

like

This digital bowl is beat

like

Can anyone suggest change of status from H4 to L1B is better or fresh L1B from India?

How is the work culture of BNP Paribas Bangalore Bagmane ? Do they offering work from home , what's the dressing style ,is it formal which needs to follow ?

like

Walmart vs Morgan Stanley
I have got an opportunity to work at Walmart Global Tech Bengaluru as a SDE-III for their pharma team. I am only concerned with work life balance at Walmart. Should I consider this offer or stay at Morgan Stanley ? Please suggest.

like

How can I move from audit to a financial analyst role? Most recruiters say I should look for an accounting/finance hybrid role.

like

Hi Folks,

Out of Lowe's and Maersk, which company would you recommend from a product Management career perspective?

like

Can anyone recommend a good online pre-natal Yoga class?

like

Asked my manager whether the company sponsor for Product Owner certifications and he asked me to build/ create a case and share with him so that we can check with the higher management.

Any ideas/ guidance on how to go about it? Are there are templates for this?

like

Ways to overcome fear of public speaking? At times I stutter when I introduce myself and am sick of it

like

Every partner that I work with

Post Photo
likefunnyhelpful

I am in a tech IC position. One of friends switched to FAANG by converting the profile to consultant profile. The friend who might have less tech knowledge than me is now in FAANG and earning more. If the end goal would be that the friend might one day be a product manager and me an engineering manager taking instructions from the same friend, isn't consultant profile an easier path to growth. I had been practising DSA for years and the competition is only ever growing.

Anyone have a couple of great recruiter that you could recommend for a SAAS sales position in Houston Texas?

like

Has anyone refinanced their student loans on h1b visa? Is common bond the only option?

Hi…I am an Ex employee of Accenture..I need Employment verification letter for RFE For H1B visa.. Accenture has provided the letter, But in the letter the purpose Was written as “ for procuring Lawful Permanent Residency “…. Now I am not sure if I can use this letter as Employement verification letter

like

Has anyone here switched from a big 4 to a smaller firm? What was your reason for switching and do you have any regrets?

like

Additional Posts in Partner One

This bowl has been quiet and I see partners commenting on odd posts around fishbowl so I figure you need more fodder: partners, did any of you have parents that travelled as much as you do?

like

Partners with kids and a working spouse, how do you manage? Is it realistic for both people in the relationship to work full time long term? How do you keep marriage going and career progressing?

likesmart

Negotiating an offer with MBB. How should I negotiate for unvested RSUs? I have about $400K with a vesting schedule over the next 3.5 years. Thank you!

like

Partners - do recruiters/headhunters ever reach out to you? What types of roles/levels do they reach out for?

When you independently search for other opportunities (if you do), what types of roles do you look for?

like

At some Big 4 companies there is a Partner / Principal group that has equity and are part owners of the business and an equivalent Managing Director group that does not have equity and are essentially employees.

How does it work at McKinsey / Bain ? Do those same distinctions exist across partner types, owner vs non owner?

like

Executive presence - what is ONE thing that helped you the most in significantly improving your executive presence during workshops, town halls, kickoffs etc.

like

How early in someone’s career do you generally identify if a homegrown person is partner material or not? M and up or earlier?

like

Anyone invest in franchises and in particular has anyone used a company called FranChoice to help you match w a franchise?

like

So, Partners... What's your spending breakdown like? Curious to see what expenses y'all have. # of yrs as Partner may also help.

Thanks for sharing! Again, just for fun and curiosity.

likehelpfulfunny

Looking for advice: would you stay in partner pipeline at Big 4 or move to one of the MBBs as a principal? I am hearing that with Big 4 getting into strategy more, MBBs will be obsolete soon thoughts?

likefunny

D 🐠, what was your take home in first year as principal? I assume you all get roughly 350 units and have to finance your buy in. What does that leave for your monthly draw? And after your insurance?

like

What was the first thing you did once you become partner? I am assuming heavy pressure on selling more than what you were selling before?

like

Big4 Advisory Partners/Principals - how much do you make in your 1st - 4th year as a partner/principal?
Trying to make a decision whether its worth continuing.

likehelpful

PPMDs, what tips you would give if your client is a Member Firm? I am an incoming project manager, lateral hired from industry. Please share your thoughts about how to make an impact from day 1.

like

All else equal, is it easier to become direct admit PP rather than promoted to that role from SM or MD? Seems less obstacles. Thoughts?

like

@Partners - how much money do you need to invest I to the firm to get your partner share?

likefunny

How do you identify potentials in people?

Question for some of the senior partners on this bowl: do you mind sharing what does the the top end of partner comp look like? Is it like 2-3M annually? And how many years it took you to get there after becoming partner?

like

Dear Partners-
Have any of you switched firms to make P? Worth it? Tips? Have always planned to make at my firm, but my firm isn’t keeping up their end of the deal, so I’m job hunting....

like

Anyone got the skinny on Alix consulting?

Got pinged by a recruiter for an MD role in digital transformation

He claims they compete with MBB and Alvarez.

Thoughts?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal