PM pals - how many of you are PMP certified? I am a video producer seeing the roles really start to blend together and so I am investing in my PMP certification and I am wondering if it’s worth my time and money. PMs and producers have always been different in my mind but so many of the job descriptions now seem to be asking for them to be the same thing - am I the only one confused?

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Are you applying to the correct roles, or asking the right questions during the initial screening?

Some companies use Producer / Project Manager interchangeably, so you need to be able to decipher what department the role sits under and what phase of the creative process the specific listing is responsible for.

In my experience, if a role is more traditional production, you’ll see verbiage re: bidding/estimates, working with production vendors and managing production timelines. If a role is more project management oriented, it’ll exclude the above and speak to managing internal cross-functional teams (creative, account, strategy, editorial, etc). These roles typically partner with a traditional producer when it comes to executing creative ideas sold in.

I know it’s confusing when these titles are used interchangeably, and I don’t particularly agree with it, but it shouldn’t be too difficult to read a description and quickly identify if you are the right fit for the role.

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Also, to answer your point, a PMP is a nice to have and adds credibility to ‘PM’ skills… but in my opinion, has little to do with the day to day responsibilities that we have in advertising.

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Waste of time, PMP training is all about strict proceses and spreadsheets you mostly never will apply in this industry, is the same for people who work on advertising than for people who manage construction projects so is not as it will help a lot career wise. if you are looking for a nice badge but that also gives you more tools go for agile trainings or so.

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I was studying for PMP and was having a hard time. I’ve been an advertising PM for almost 20 years and was getting thrown between what I know how to do vs what the training was telling me, I’m so far removed from the names of processes, procedures, etc that I couldn’t keep things straight. In the end, I’ve never been knocked out of contention due to me not having a PMP certification.

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I was planning on sitting for the pmp certification and did the certified coursework and all that jazz. I still keep up with new PM methodologies and blend it with my on the ground experience to help get myself structured to match the project management frame work I see in new Producer job descriptions. Honestly it’s not a bad thing to just take a few classes on LinkedIn, their classes are certified and free with a premium subscription. Test drive the design project management classes and see how you feel about continuing.

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Agreed. Waste of time and money. Agile, Scrum certification is a better option if you want additional training.

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I only agree that it's a waste of time if you intend to spend the rest of your Production/PM carèer in advertising. If you ever decide you want to apply your skills elsewhere, other industries value it.

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Waste of time. I easily scaled 6 figures by getting other offers & the company matched it. I was also offered an Associate Director role in healthcare & I turned it down. I’m ok at the SPM level especially on the client side. Sometimes I even make more without the headache & WLB. I’m also a blogger on the side. I’m not interested in late nights for a few thousand dollars more or sometimes equal pay.

If you want to only produce, you don’t really need any of this although it’s a nice to have. My clients want an Excel or Word calendar, nothing fancy, my skills are more related to knowing about who reps which director, where I can find a freelance compositor, which vendors do great CG, actor unions, mileage that can trigger overtime, child labor laws, weekend wardrobe fittings. I get that the job descriptions are poorly written sometimes but it’s a slight Venn diagram at best, with some structural similarities, but not the same same career trajectory, in my experience.

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