So I got an offer with Google (Cloud Consultant). No other offers, but this is a pretty big low-ball. It's actually less than a Big 4 contract position I turned down. I'm feeling conflicted since there's no coding involved on the job, I feel that I will be losing my hands-on coding skills, which may hurt later as I would love to start a startup at some point, as a technical founder/cofounder. The job itself is mostly enterprise cloud migrations to GCP.

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You’re in a great position. You’re willing to walk away, which means you can play hardball and mean it. No company Google’s size ever declined an offer because a candidate pitched themselves too high. Everyone involved understands it’s a negotiation. Aim high, accept somewhere in the middle. If they won’t come up, do walk away.

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There’s no rule that says you have to take it.
Negotiate the hell out of equity and if you’re still not happy, pass kn it.

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Why do you feel you have to accept?

So to be fair, I can still counter and hopefully end up higher than where I am now. I could also work on my MVP in the evenings and that would be hands on, including learning some new tech.

How off-base is it?

Also say that you are well positioned for a promotion. I would ask for 300k in equity and then be happy with around 240-250. Large signing bonuses seem to be a bit rare these days

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Are you in the bay area? I would negotiate, you might get a better offer .

E1, this is sage advice. I'd prefer not to have to live in the infamous hacker houses on AirBnb in the South Bay, if that's still a thing.

Fwiw Google is known to lowball, hard. Friend of mine recently went through this, and had to negotiate hard to get fair market rate. Don’t accept that first offer.

Yeah I heard the same that they are really lowballing people lately. I'm glad I did my research first.

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