CGI What are your thoughts about 100% onsite work for managers and up? Leaders are required to be in the office.

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I have to laugh at this question... at my last company they instituted RTO requirements, but the problem was that 95% of the Directors, the C-Suite, and the E-Suite were remote. So, they designated the homes of those in leadership as "Centers of Excellence" (a fancy way of saying, 'a company office') so they were excluded from the RTO requirements. It was hilarious watching our CEO - who worked from home - tell us how WE all needed to come back to the office to improve collaboration and productivity.

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Wow! Sounds like horse sh1t to me. Don’t mandate it to others but leadership can do what they want.

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Everyone should be in the office 100%. If you don't want to be in the office, there are plenty of people who need a job who are more than happy to go to the office.

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100% on-site. nope. I understand the need for a majority on on-site work, but a 1 to 2 day WFH policy is welcome and will help a company compete with those that do. WFH is working and its an excellent work culture benefit that attracts better employees.

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I think it depends, but I do think that it’s a bad look when the lower level have to spend more time at the office than higher level employees/boss. It’s also not good if the job is such that the boss needs to be accessible and they aren’t.

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If any of my day would include a zoom or teams meeting, I should not be required to be in the office.

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No one on my team OR any other team with which I interact is at my location. So I spend 8 hours every day on Teams or Email or Zoom. Why should I have to drive 1 1/2 hours per day to commute downtown and pay for downtown parking to sit at a hot desk which means I have schlep my laptop and anything I need for work back and forth every day? There's no support, it's a cube with a plug in for the laptop. There's no supplies, no phones, no point!

I think it has more to do with the location of the other people on the teams. The only reason ANYONE should have to come into the office is if all team members will be there no matter if they are leads/managers or individual contributors. I happen to be in the US and 8 out of 10 of my team are in another country. How would going into the office help anything?

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If your manager was forced to come in every day, I wouldn't be surprised to see him or her cranky :D

The question completely ignores the industry. If you are making cars like Elon Musk, then there could be a valid argument for it, but if you are as software developer such as I am it makes absolutely no sense.

I have been a software developer for nearly 20 years, in that time I have had to work with quite a lot of overseas teams which were justified due to their cost savings. I see no difference at all with "local" teams. Why ask people to waste 2+ hours a day in traffic and also waste the cost of leasing an office when people can just do the exact same thing at home (probably better even)

My company has been work-from-home 100% since covid. We got rid of our offices and our employees have been scattered throughout the country. Everything seems to be going just fine.

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My workplace, CGI, insisted staff return to office at least 2-3x a week for better “collaboration, culture, and engagement.” Funny, however, whenever I go in, everyone is purely on Teams calls with clients or other staff members not even based in the same city all day. But hey, it’s for better collaboration, culture and engagement in office right? Additionally, they are tracking card swipes to ensure staff are abiding this ruling. Tell us you don’t trust your staff without telling us, nor is this also for getting ROI on office leases.

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The aim is to have more "water cooler conversations" which will eventually lead to more innovation. I don't know. I would definitely choose with whom I would spend my time in the office. I would most likely focus on my work so that I leave on time and not worry about opening my laptop at home.

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There used to be a guy at my previous job, before the pandemic, who would come into the offcie every day and not jost sleep at his desk but also would snore.
A good maanger does not need to see their reports every day to know who performs and who doesn't.

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Having spent much of my career running either regional or global teams, I'd say that this attitude is a failure of leadership in itself. One or two days a week makes perfect sense, as long as the SLT/ELT is aligned on the days so EVERYONE can be there, and each of the functional leaders can work with their teams in a way that makes sense. When my day often starts with phone calls at 6 am to catch up with my DR in one time zone, and finishes at 8 PM to catch up with my DRs on the other side of the planet, in what world does it make sense for me to spend an hour and a half each day commuting 5 days a week when I'm in town? I spend a lot of my time on the road in front of customers and meeting, mentoring and coaching my team's seniors anyway. If someone can explain to me how it benefits my team, our results and the company to do this when all evidence points the other way, happy to listen.

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I could make the case for having leaders on site if you are requiring others to be in the office too. But I do also feel like if you are in a leadership position, you should have or work on the ability to communicate with people through all different kinds of channels. We did RTO a while ago, and still have a ton of virtual communication.

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Yeah if I’m still using zoom for the vast majority of my meetings what was the point?

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It probably depends on the business, but in this day and age, I would say no. Managers are not required to be in the office.

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I know a company that makes remote workers stay on an all-day zoom on-camera. I think I’d rather come in if that was the alternative

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Some companies have a very toxic culture. I'd just vote with my feet and go elsewhere.

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I love to work on site installing an elevator /escalator
I all so can do troubleshooting mechanics maintenance ect.

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Only for the leaders that are micro managers. They can micro manage each other while in the office. 🙄

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Get out of your jammies and get to work.

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Irrespective of pay and title, People hate injustice in the workspace. If an edict gets sent out that employees needs to 100% on site, and management does not abide by this, then leadership will lose respect and people will not rally to their cause. Leadership will often have to be off site which is permissible, but if you don't show up when it matters, you get what you deserve. unintended turn over, and general distrust.

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Pay me and I don’t give a crap where you want me to work from office or home. Thanks to the “remote only” people that quite during and right after Covid I was able to land nice salaries just for driving into an office to work. Thank you all!

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Well, most remote only people are typically working at least 2 remote jobs at the same time. My question is why aren’t companies used to this mindset? Oo.

They’ve been secretly trying to kill it since day one. I don’t think they’ll ever stop.

Communication is key. So a team working together in the office should be more responsive than any remote team.

If any of you senior financial people objects to going in to the office, just let me know; I will take your job in half a heartbeat.

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