What would you do if a recruiter said to you that they will not disclose the salary expectations until further down the line? Is that a turn off for some of you?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I know in this job market, we aren't all in the position to be picky. But I would really struggle to move forward with a company that doesn't want me to know if I'm wasting my time or not. They know what skills and experience they are getting from me, I should know what salary I would be getting from them.

like

I would probably go through the process until it got to the point of completing an assignment. I wouldn’t move past that without knowing. When you think about it, it’s not too much of a time waste to sit for a few interviews, especially for a potentially great job and compensation. I would also probably try to bring that up with someone who is interviewing me. Ive had it happen to me…THEY dont know the comp info is being withheld and that THEIR time might be wasted. And in most of the cases, the recruiter has behind the scenes been “corrected” and a budget shared. Generally when you make your problem somebody else’s problem, it gets rectified quickly.

like

Ok, so you just left the Wendy's drive thru with a mediocre chicken sandwich, but it's your favorite one from that restaurant, so you're satisfied. You meet an acquaintance at the park who's brown-bagging it. He's craving some Wendy's and wants to make a trade with you for his brown-bag lunch, but he's not willing to tell you what's in the bag. Are you making the trade? No, because you're worried he's packing a luke-warm bologna sandwich and some stale chips. Same with this job offer. I'm not trading my time for something that will likely end up being sub-par. Nope!

like

I think that's definitely a turn off. I generally encourage people not to initiate the first salary conversation, but if an employer said this to me I'd be suspicious that they even have the budget for the position. I guess still worth seeing where it goes though.

like

If you’re bored and have nothing else to do, keep going. If you value your time, tell them to fuck off.

likefunny

I agree completely with the sentiment and appreciate the afternoon giggle!

Huge turnoff. Unless I had a reason to believe their range would be in line with my expectations, this would have me reconsidering continuing with the interview process. I see no reason for secrecy when it comes to salary and would be irked at the idea of being strung along only to receive a lowball offer.

likehelpful

I think I would steer clear of a company that does not disclose salary range upfront. As others have stated they are just wasting your time or don't have a budget in mind. From my experience I have seen that the majority of companies don't have a contract in hand and are just feeling the market, no real position is available. In addition I have also see that a majority of recruiters don't have any idea of current market rates that they are recruiting for.

like

Why would you go through the process

like

Candidates do the same thing to recruiters all the time. Should that turn off a recruiter?

Here's why this happens on both sides. If a recruiter tells a candidate that a position pays a number between 1 and 10, the candidate only hears 10. Game over.

Conversely, if a candidate tells a recruiter they'll take a number between 1 and 10, the recruiter only hears 1.

It makes sense to feel things out through a couple conversations and align as each party learns more about the other.

Just my two cents.

like

To give a bit of a contrarian opinion:

My current company didn't provide an initial salary expectation and they gave me a great offer. Though, I did do my own research beforehand and had a rough understanding of the salary range. I negotiated for the top of the range and received it.

If the company is reputable (as it was in my case) then this can be fine. Sometimes some odd internal policy exists, that forbids interviewers from disclosing salary expectations.

I do agree with others that this is very frustrating as an interviewee and while it isn't a turn off to me, it'll certainly make me feel annoyed

Turn off for me - wouldn’t want to waste their and my time if it wasn’t a fit!

Related Posts

WTF is going on with XRP

Pretty sure everyone knows I’m stoned rn

likefunnyuplifting

Heya, what is the typical range for a C and SC at Deloitte within the Data and Analytics Practice?

like

Does UBS pay relocation bonus?

like

What does 3.2 Genus mean at Nagarro?

Whenever I think I make decent money, I come to this bowl and read recommendations on shoes, luggage, etc.

likefunny

What should be my ask to UST global for a senior cybersecurity role. I am having 10.4 yr experience. My current is 41LPA UST Global

Stupid me thought Accenture is different. Like any other consulting firm, some MDs literally gave away their soul to the devil once you got promoted.

likehelpfulfunny

Joining D soon as manager. Can we use Interactivebroker for stock trading?

like

Looking for feedback, I'm updating my resume and I'm wondering at what point should I start removing past work experience. I've heard anything older than 10 years should go?

likesmart

Hi Guys,

Getting offer from both JP morgan and Hitachi Vantara, my only priority os work life balance.

Is Hitachi Vantara offering good work life balance? I'll be joining at Manager Level.

can anyone help me with standard package for Customer success manager/ key account manager salary. I have 2 years of experience. Need to know what can I expect for this role.

like

Anyone from Deloitte?

Hi Fishes,
I am working in
Citi pune currently and seeking for wfh opportunity.
Kindly clear my ambiguity as I have been told by hr that Publicis Sapient will provide permanent wfh forever. Is this true, as per my surfing this seems fishy ?
Thanks!

funny
like

Hi Fishes,
I have offers from Vistusa - 16.5Lpa, Exl - 17 lpa, Zensar - 17.5 Fixed with 4 yoe. Which one would be best to join in terms of wlb, work culture and hikes. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.

like

I’m a Producer/PM/Account Manager at a small production company in Seattle making $65k. I’ve been with the company for three years now. For wearing so many hats, should I be making more?

Do you like Angular or MVC with Razor HTML & Why ?

like

Absolutely genius. Who knew I needed a silicone keyboard cover?

Post Photo
likefunny

Helo everyone if you have any referal on cyber security or penetrations testing please let me know

like

Additional Posts in Salary Negotiations

Amazonians - curious to know what internal ops L5 and L6 make? Thanks in advanced!

like

Annual review coming up. Looking for suggestions for asks…

8 YOE, Current 125 base, TC ~140.

Median base for my title/geo ~170 (mean ~166, 0.75 ~226).

Certs: CIPM, M365 Security Admin/Architect, AWS SOA, AN, & Security.

Vet, Inactive TS.

Highlights of the year: flew out on 12hr notice to evac E Europe-based employees & families, plugged 3 exposures before they became breaches, built TVM/privacy program from scratch, onboarded new CNAPP.

(-) Still a student (GIB: BA/MS expected ‘24)

like

Posting this for a friend. She has 20+ years experience as a resource manager and is is trying to leave Microsoft. She’s currently making 157K base. what salary expectations should she have. She has interviews with Amazon, Deloitte, and a few others I don’t remember lol.

Post Photo
like

Current situation: company A- was hired as a specialist and proved my worth to become a category manager but ended up on the low end of the salary range because of my lack of experience. Have voice my concern about my pay several times to my director, with no action in return.
Company B - Recruiter on LinkedIn approached me regarding a position open at an out of state healthcare facility for the same thing I do now, I would be working remotely where I currently am today. Cont in comments..

like

I'm new to all this. Is it best to save 10% of my salary all in my company's 401k (with 20% match, increasing by 5% every year)... or saving 5% in 401k and 5% in a Roth IRA?

like

Started a new job a year ago, high performer. My manager suggested a promotion to Product Manager since that‘s the work I’m doing, but that would be a 50% raise. Higher ups decided instead to make a “new role” (not PM), that has no analog in the company and is hard to price via Glassdoor, etc. I feel like this is to limit my promotion salary to something like 10% from where it currently is. Is there anything I can do? FWIW: I have a PhD from top 5 program and am working in that field. Thanks!

likehelpful

I was approached on LinkedIn for an early career recruiting role in DFW, TX. I don't have direct experience, but I have the university experience/connections from working in career services. This is the first time I've considered work outside of higher education. I said my salary expectations are minimum $90k and that didn't seem to be an issue. Am I asking too little, too much? How can I know I'm getting the best salary and not just settling at the low end of the range?

like

Any HR pros able to explain the process for hiring US citizens to Canadian offices, and if that process is so onerous you would rather offer a much higher US salary to avoid it?

like

When I negotiated my comp, all my discussions were around me being a junior and I only accepted my comp for that reason (would not have accepted if I was step above junior since it was low). Negotiations happened with HR, but my offer letter and documents never mention junior (but I have proof from HR saying I am a junior). How do I approach this with my boss as I’m not sure she’s aware I’m actually technically a junior? Revolving around asking for a move up + raise

like

I received an offer for a role that is a lot more money than I thought but I still want to negotiate and see how much more money I can get. What can I say if the salary is already above average for the role in the market and city I live in?

likehelpful
like

Hello, I’m being offered a policy analyst position what is the typical range I should ask for. I’ve done research and it’s a wide range.

like

Got an offer for Sr. Financial Analyst for 85k & 10% annual bonus. What's a good counteroffer? I told the recruiter 95k-110k when I first interviewed. This position is 100% remote, headquartered in VA. I live in NYC. Have roughly 2 YOE.

Thanks.

like

What jobs are currently paying 85k?

like

I am negotiating an Engineer position in Ottawa. Is 90k a good starting point? I’ve checked Glassdoor, Indeed, and the PEO salary survey, but I want to have as much info as possible. Any pointers are appreciated!

like

Does anyone have suggestions for what a salary should be for a Digital Marketing Analyst | Paid Social & Performance Media? I have 1 year of experience, the job asks for 0-1 year of experience. I feel I over meet the qualifications in some areas and just meet them in others. The recruiter said 50k is the salary the company is offer. I know I can negotiate. What are your thoughts on what the salary should be?

like

Hi, what is an entry level salary, or what would be a fair pay for someone starting in a Cyber security consultant role, without any experience in the field, with a Comptia A+ certificate and getting training on the new job? Thank you

like

I’m interviewing with a startup and the range has a 40k difference from the lowest to highest point. It’s also pre-seed and comes with equity, and health, 401k benefits. It’s a director of sales role so I would eventually be recruiting and managing a team along with building the processes and strategy. What would you consider a fair compensation package? If they offer me something on the lower end of the range, is it still appropriate to counter with an offer that is over their stated range?

like

BSME ~1yoe what’s an expected pay raise for an annual review was thinking of some percentages and wasn’t sure what’s too low or too high

like

Program Manager Healthcare Foundation $85,000. Worth it? Or too low?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal