What's stopping me from lying about my current salary when interviewing with a competitor?

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Unless you are in Mass. Which just made it illegal. However, I would be careful and craft it this way. I I would say something like "while I make x, I believe my skills & performance make me a valuable asset for your firm/company/org. Based on relevant market data, my salary expectations are in the x-y range". That way you are still honest but they know what you are no fool.

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So here's what happened. friend lied to D about how much he was making currently at K. D didn't ask for any additional items (W-2 or tax returns or anything) and D made an offer. A week before he was supposed to join HR called him and said care to explain why there's a difference between what you said your salary was and what's listed officially (never indicated how they found out). Friend wasn't able to back it up (said the usual stuff that he and included expected bonus and other benefits etc etc) and his offer was rescinded by the hiring new partner

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Because if they make an offer and do a background check it will show up. If you lie they can rescind your offer. Happened to a friend of mine who was making the move from K to D

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Integrity

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Will your salary information really show up on a background check? Find that hard to believe

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EY requests W2 or a prior month pay stub. I think it is more of a big 4 thing though.

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Salary info shows up on employment background check. My employer used hire right to run background check and I selected the option to receive a copy of the report. All my salary information was listed in it :)

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I was shocked because I always thought it was illegal for previous employer to disclose salary as well. But I guess they have other ways of finding out

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It would make sense for me to believe that big 4 HR staff are all in bed with each other. It is one big revolving door.

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D1 what background check? Only thing they need is verification of dates of employment. They do try to ask for your tax documents, but u can always refer them to HR who will give your dates of employment but are obv not allowed to disclose your salary. An offer is what competitor values you at. It shouldn't be that heavily dependent on what you make anyway. Made a 35% jump personally

Deloitte requests W2s. Just an FYI.

You provide your social security number on the application and agree to anything. Even a dept store can find out how much you make in 20 seconds once you give your social and agree. I assume an employer who is willing to pay you over 6 figures will definitely know how much you made previously.

Got it. K didn't ask for either of those when I made the move from industry.

PWC Didn't request anything. Can you decline in a way that won't cost you the offer?

Deloitte will not hire you if you lie! You xan be honest bout it and they will still pay you well. They do not try to lowball. But definitely do not lie!

Personally I wouldn't have the guts or knack to do lie about my salary. Hope all works out well for you! But keep us posted!

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HR can absolutely disclose your salary. It's one of 3 things they can and will provide, along with dates of employment and title at separation (may depend by state?). They won't usually say if you were laid off/fired or if you left of your own volition though

I wonder if this is one of the things I hear about when people we interview and want to hire aren't extended an offer B/c of the 'background' check.

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