What’s the going salary, bonus etc for a Senior Product Manager at SapientRazorfish_ in Chicago? Asking for a friend...

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@pm1, I'm happy to help if you let me know how you can be contacted. We can grab coffee and discuss.

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What does a product manager do at SR? I didn’t know this was a role at agencies.. I’m a product owner, so curious.

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@PM1, what do you do as a product owner? I can probably help clarify based on your response

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I don’t even know why my title is product owner and not product manager. We don’t do true scrum, we do kanban basically. We don’t have scrum masters either.

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Honestly, I’m 3 weeks in and fuck if I know at this point. I’m a PO for Web/Ecom. I basically got dumped into a shitstorm (rapid company growth) with no guidance and no documentation or process and just want to cry constantly (I’m not a crier) and feel like my only option is to quit (I don’t want to, but I feel like I’ll never figure it out). It’s really difficult for me to have gone from being a really great senior PM, the person everyone could always count on who knew everything and had their shit together and kept the team together (our ECD refused to work with any PM but me), to feeling like a failure.

To be clear, I am not struggling because I misrepresented myself during the hiring process. I didn’t even apply for this job - I applied for a marketing project manager role and the company wanted to hire me as a PO instead. Point being, they knew I had no PO experience. I was nervous, but excited at the opportunity, but feel like I’m failing.

Sorry for derailing this thread into a pity party. Wasn’t my intent.

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I don't have a PO title but is doing the job of a PO. I know the client's business very well, understand their business strategy and objectives inside out. Then I translate all these to my internal team in a roadmap, broken down by sprints based on prioritized product backlog to achieve maximum business and user values. I also collaborate with client side stakeholders in order to do all these. In short, you can leverage your existing PM skills to do some of these but it would help to learn the overall framework.

If you want to be serious about this, take a Product Management Class from General Assembly or look for online courses you can take. There are also many Product Management books you can buy. You will figure it out. You got this! Good luck! 🙌💪

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I'd say 110-120 is a safe range

Thanks @SR2. I am serious about it and looked into the GA course (one starts weekly online on Saturdays starting next week.), the biggest problem I’m having right now is no one really training me to do anything and just dumping me in to figure it out with no experience. I get pretty bad anxiety in situations like that and suffer from a learning disability (under normal circumstances where I know things, I’m fine and I’m a well-oiled, autonomous machine). I’ve been questioning lately why they even hired me.

@SR2, appreciate it! Thank you! I made an email specifically for my PO stuff (newsletters, message boards, etc.) since my personal email is a spam wasteland and I want to be able to quickly find product things. productownerinfo@gmail.com

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