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Why do some people say that the senior level at big tech (e.g., L6 at AWS) correlates to senior manager level at big 4? I get it from a comp perspective since comp is just that much higher. But from a scope/skills perspective, I find it hard to believe that L6 is closer to SM than it is to SC. Asking cause I have a senior level offer in big tech. Amazon, AWS, Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft

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Usually YOE. I'd be shocked to hear that you're a Consultant level with 2-3 YOE who landed an L6 role at AWS or elsewhere in Amazon. Alternative explanation is super niche skillset.

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Been quoted $140-160k for SFA in Seattle. Should I negotiate higher if I get the offer? YOE 7; exp in industry/ advisory/ consulting

L6 band and scope at Amazon is very wide (intentionally).

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Sc and interviewed for l6 at Amazon. That was the right fit but my reporting manager also was l6

L6 at Amazon has a wide range per sc1s note. It’s a terminal level and also the post-mba level. It includes individual contributors and managers. SM is probably on the border of L6 and L7 and you could get either one depending on your experience/ interview performance/role definition. Some L7 roles are “managers/director of managers” so they manage multiple L6 managers that have multiple l4-l6 direct reports, so you’d have 3-5 managers reporting to you with a total org size of 12-20. That kind of responsibility/oversight is a bit beyond what most SM level consultants are used to, so you can see why they’re hesitant to drop ppl into that role.

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Level of work experience required for a L6 role and the work experience of the resources that you typically find in those roles are aligned with the SM level at B4. L6 is definitely aligned to SM or heavy M — SC would be a L4 or L5 depending.

Never seen an L3 at AWS, at least in the US.

The actual work at AWS is much different and a professional services role within AWS has fewer areas of responsibility. Generally you focus on engagement delivery and while you may supportsales, you don’t have a sales target and utilization targets aren’t enforced. The focus is on delivery and solutions architecture which ultimately result in additional workloads on AWS. My current bill rate is easily 30% lower than I would be elsewhere if not 50% lower. It’s not as mature in a lot of ways but it doesn’t really need to be.

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