Will starting at a pharma centered agency hinder my chances of being able to land a solid job in a good creative shop? Seems like no creative shops are hiring Jr. AD’s right now...

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I’d rather hire a good, agency-experienced pharma junior than an intern that’s holding out for the perfect job

like

Senior copywriter. Totally understand. Just giving my POV because OP asked if it can be a career hinderance in getting a job at a creative shop and my honest answer (as a CD at a creative shop) is yes.

like

I’d sooner hire on student work.

like

Yes. Speaking from personal experience. No one will hire you at a non-pharma agency if you start in a pharma agency

like

good to know, thank you!

Need a junior writer partner?

like

yes actually!

DM me let's chat!!!!

like

Don’t get into pharma. It was the first job offered to me out of college and I’ve been doing it ever since. :/

like

OP, I’m a mid-level art director.

like

At some point we might get leadership in this country who realize like the rest of the world that consumer pharma advertising is unethical and should be against the law. Then you’ll be stuck in an extinct field or battling for health care professional advertising work with the rest of the folks who work in consumer pharma

Related Posts

Would anyone be willing to talk about FDD or give a referral? I’ve been with PwC audit for one busy season and have had the chance to talk to friends and coworkers about FDD since I’ve been interested for a while now. It looks like there are some experienced associate positions available at BDO. Thanks!

likesmarthelpful

Hello Fishes,
Looking for a job change in DevOps role, please help with referrals.
Experience:5 years
Skillset: Linux, Docker, K8s, Python/Shell, Jenkins/GitLab CI, release management.
Notice period: 1 month

like
like

I know the official policy is 3 days in the office. I’d there a way negotiate to negotiate that to let’s say 2 days in the office during hiring?

like

Amazon Web Services Can someone refer me for operations manager position in Amazon Web Services Amazon ?

like

Is anyone wondering what life will really be like for all the new Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion executives that many companies are hiring and bragging about now? I wonder how much power they will actually have to effect change. I wonder how long the trend will last.

like

Can anyone refer for HR Recruiter, Talent Acquisition, or Any HR role. Exp 2 years , location Pune.

like

Anyone looking for a job change? DM me for a Deloitte referral. We are hiring numerous positions across the country.

likesmart

Light & Wonder Let me know if anyone is interested in the below openings Light & Wonder

Post Photo
like

Hi all, i plan to stick with tax ( public acct) till senior and will apply for private role with a hope that i can start to do part time tax prep. Any thoughts or advice?

like

Can someone suggest companies that hire for secondary research ? Also can someone help with referral for a suitable opportunity in some consulting firm. I hav a experience of 6+ years in secondary research , report writing and knowledge management ( Healthcare )

like

Will CSPO help in Product Manager role?

like

Any connections at McGraw Hill? Thinking of applying for their curriculum specialist role. Transitioning from teaching.

like

Hi all. I am looking to get a referral for A&M UK office for a business modeling associate role. Any help would be appreciated!

Any companies that are hiring ppl with no experience?

Hi Guys, I need a referal at Microsoft for Product Manager role.
Can anyone help please ? Microsoft

like

Hi, how is the work life balance and job security in Infosys?
Which location is the best for the AWS role?

like

Hi!!
I am looking for a referral for Marketing/Product management role, lost previous job in a layoff.
YOE: 2.5

Anyone here hiring for an Account Supervisor? 😊

like

Wanted some interview question tips for Rivian, chemical design internship role.
Suggestions are most welcome!
Rivian

like

More Posts

Thoughts on that cfa institute email today. Are you changing test center location? Currently registered for DC but I think if a location is going to close that’s probably up there in likelihood.

like

4th year Trust & Estate attorney at boutique firm in LA serving ultra high net worth clients. Trying to determine whether my compensation is fair. Any others in similar positions willing to share their salary/bonus information? Thanks!

YOE - 3.8

Ctc offered - 16.7

Fixed - 14.5

Location - Bangalore

Please advise whether the package offered is okay or not. Should I look for another offer?

like

Hi and welcome to the Career Advice Bowl! Stuck on how to make your next move or what that move should even be? Had an experience you feel others could benefit from hearing about? Just need to vent for a second? We got you! Post away, all. I look forward to seeing what conversations and connections come our way.

like

Anyone here doing Pharma marketing or any sort of data analyst work? If so, please let me treat you to coffee in exchange to pick your brain!

I’m curious about your career path, day in the life, do you enjoy it? Would love to connect!

like

We just moved to 'unlimited' vaca. TBD how that will play out but hoping it'll make this easier.

like

What's the day to day like

I want to join Adobe as a Product Manager.Any suggestion for preparation would be helpful.

like

Looking for job change Mainframe resources
Exp: 11+
Current location:Pune
Visa : valid H1B unstamped(2.6yrs exhausted)
Notice :90 days
Preferred location: Pune,Nagpur
Any leads will be appreciated,TIA

like

What are some fun things to do in NYC around Christmas time? The only thing on my list so far is ice skating at Rockefeller

like

#Need help Fishes
Have recently started learning Azure DE through videos (purchased Udemy course - Amit Navgire). But unable to understand much. Even if I am able to understand, just forget it the very next day (like steps to create linked service to storage or Data Lake account, etc..)
What should I do to understand it in much better way ?
Note: Have past experience in data analytics and little bit in Data Science

Any ideas on L5 process excellence manager salary range at GOC Hyderabad ?@

like

What should be the salary for Frontend developer/angular with 2+ years of exp in EY ?

Where are we supposed to submit tax declaration documents after declaring them in the system in EY India?

The system shows the supporting documents need to be submitted by 6th January.

like

Hello! I'm looking for DEI director or DEI program manager position that is remote. I'm currently a director of equity and multicultural outreach right now.

Random question, my boss wants me to become a notary so I can handle notarizing all of the official documents myself. Has anyone else been asked to do this for their employer? Is it ethical?

like

What’s your best advice for dealing with an insufferable manager? I’m being gaslit and micromanaged to wit’s end.

like

Will it be completely mandatory to go to office or will it depend on the team from January onwards. I am willing to extend my WFH, so can I talk to my project manager because most of the team work from all different location. Any suggestions!

Hello, I was in a verbally abusive college relationship and struggled with mental health. Therefore, my gpa suffered greatly (2.9). However, I now have a good job and am doing very well. Should I explain the reason for my low GPA in my MBA app? I’m applying to LBS, Booth, Stanford, UCLA, UCB etc.

like

Additional Posts in Advertising

Do you feel it’s appropriate for a non-Latinx/Hispanic Producer to ideate or create a Spanish US/Domestic ad for the Latinx audience?
(ie Spanish spot running on Univison for Walmart) **Not referring to LATAM ads**

like

Pros and cons of working on an auto brand?

likesmart

It’s hard to be motivated when rounds of layoffs happen and you see all your friends leave. But one thing that’s gotten me through all of this is working out. And when I say workout I mean the most pathetic, sad, barely completed beginner-level cardio dance routines. I’ve somehow forced myself to move while on lockdown and it’s somehow forced me to feel better. Whatever you’re doing, wherever you are: get up and move even if you don’t finish or end up going on a walk. Pls take care of yourself❤️

like

Why ask me to take the lead on something I was never apart of to begin with? Annoying asf

like

Why do people in this industry say "like" so much? It makes it annoying to, like, walk around the building and listen

like

When a client expects a new campaign with only 1-2 weeks before a deadline 🫠

likeupliftingfunny

Question for Gen Z’ers - what are some of the more annoying/toxic things about the agency world you have no patience for/ignore?

like

Just found out there’s an ECD in a big NYC agency who claims to have won awards, but the name doesn’t pop up in any of the archives.

How do they get away with it?

like

A recruiter from one of the Publicis houses reached out to me about an open position. I'm seeing positions I'd rather have in other Publicis houses. How can I leverage this contact to find the right recruiters for the job I want?

like

Is it normal for every single call (client or internal) everyone dials in from their desks at an open format office? Everyone avoids takings calls together/conference rooms like the plague.

like

Wet mouth noises...😖😖😖🗯🔥

like

Stop with the unnecessary meetings. PLEASE.

like

Out of curiosity, how much $ did you start making before buying a pet?

like

My browser history is failing me and hope y’all can help! I recently stumbled upon a website where some ad folks had compiled a bunch of idea/conceptual thinking approaches and if you clicked through there were past spots that had utilized that idea / way of thinking. I wanted to share it with a mentee and can’t track it down. It was a simple layout: grid of images w/headline naming the idea … Sound familiar?

like

Are CPGs pushing more faux-health benefits than before?
Or is society catching up to the bs?

Post Photo
like

No one—of any age, on any occasion—ever—says “It’s easy as 1 2 3!” And yet every now and then, even now, you see it as a line (junk mail mostly). Did anyone EVER say it, outside of advertising?

like

How much should a contract ACD charge hourly?

like

What skills or abilities do you believe are the most important to have/demonstrate in order to move from Copywriter to Sr. Copywriter?

like

So if the supporting rules(PM, BA, Digital producer. Etc) within an ad agency gets paid more than the creatives who are making the work, what does it mean for being a young creative?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal