So if the supporting rules(PM, BA, Digital producer. Etc) within an ad agency gets paid more than the creatives who are making the work, what does it mean for being a young creative?

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Also, LOL at you referring to Project and Production Management titles as 'supporting roles'. I think the answer lies within your question.

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When you grow up and realize we're all not here to service your little ego and realize we all have responsibilities in order for ideas to come to light, maybe you'll appreciate the business a little more.

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When you are finally recognized for your genius, OP, you start making more than them. But for now, I need you to resize some banner ads and redesign a few more over the weekend for a ppt slide I'll present for 5 seconds. Thanks buddy.

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That there's plenty of creatives to replace you.

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Glassdoor duh

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SAd OP, nevermind about the banners. I found an intern who will do it. Better.

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Get one of those jobs then. I think that solves your issue haha

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Curious on to how your privy of everyone's salaries?

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Well sure, then that sounds like a reliable source to base your ass backwards jaded opinion on.

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And if the execution is shit even the most brilliant creative idea won't get far.

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You come up with an creative idea and sell to the client please.

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^^^^^^^^^^^

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Oh, God, another creative making the work without which none of our jobs would ever exist anywhere... Meanwhile, marketing and its sub-branch of advertising is a business concept that brilliant business people came up with since the dawn of any enterprise, for which creative execution is one of many tools.

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Good to know, no roles are irreplaceable. The same goes to you. Cool story bro.

You're pathetic.

Yep, it's why this industry is messed up - pathetic creatives. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Oh yea, the classic when you grow up talk. If there is no idea, how would it come to light? You realize if the creative part is shit, execution doesn't matter right?

And o yea, the classic out of touch CD. If you are a CD and telling me to do that? I'm sorry buddy, I'm not working for you. You lost your talent.

Better execution is way easier to find than brilliant idea. There are not many Steve Jobs for loose analogy.

Yeah. It's everyone except for you.

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