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Hi fishes, I'm having below 2 offers. I'm little bit confused. Can you help me to choose one. Factors : career growth, work life balance. YOE : 2.7 yrs 1.Shell - Senior process data engineer (11+ 2L(variable) + 2.3L joining bonus (1 year) ) 2.Tiger Analytics - data science - python developer (14L fixed + 1L(2 year clause)) Shell Tiger Analytics
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Give me less “excitement” every time if it means I can see my kids.
The salary and title bumps will do nicely, too.
Yeah this place has really nice perks, work life balance, etc. but so does my current shop. This new job would prob be a step back as far as creativity, but that salary bump would be substantial
What happens to your book after 3 years of making unexciting things?
There’s no right answer because it depends on what’s important to you. But project ahead a bit and see what you come up with
CD - one more question. Let’s change the scenario. Let’s say it’s not quite boring work, but an agency that doesn’t have the best reputation. Definitely potential to create some decent work...but other creatives see the agency on your resume and may...groan. Wwyd?
Hmmm….
I can hear this meme
Chief
Depends. Whichever one is remote!
Take the more money and less drama (oops excitement), the future you will thank you.
Literally just went through this same agonizing thought process. Had to decide between keeping my cushy network ad agency job vs. getting a title bump and a $40k raise at an indie branding studio with far better work-life balance. Chose the former—put in my two weeks last night. You got this. 🤘🏼
Thanks for clarifying. I actually read this three times trying to make sense of it 😃
I don’t know. I just left my job that was a significant salary increase because there was nothing creative about it. Also, an offer could help you get more money at your current place of employment.
Yes, that is absolutely true.
Would you take less money and a demotion and no potential for a raise to work on even more “exciting things”?
I’d take a demotion and less money for Wieden. That’s about it
Boring work slaps an expiration date on your portfolio. Approx 5 years. Better have a backup plan once that happens.
Yes! Tomorrow. We keep beating this horse. Make that money y’all.
Yes. In every scenario I’m taking the money.
Depends. Is your book good enough? Then take the money. If you’re book could get better. Keep putting in time and chasing the best possible work.
I did the jump to less exciting. It was great people and I enjoyed having more time to just live my life. But ultimately jumped back in to the crazy because I missed the excitement. Luckily though continued the path upwards salary wise.
Chase the $$$. Papi wants to buy a house, he’s reached a point where he doesn’t care about the constant struggle to get good work to leave the agency. Work to live, not the other way around.
Ok let’s change the scenario. The work isn’t boring, per se, but the agency doesn’t have the best reputation. Still leaving?
Chief
What’s your plan? Chase the great portfolio and continue leveling-up in the agency world? Or do you want the higher title, perhaps management experience, and your future concern is more about work/life balance than brag-worthy ads? That’s what dictates your choice. They’re two different paths.
I used to think it was the former. It still is, to an extent, but I’m slowly realizing this is a job. No one outside of advertising (and a few people IN advertising) care about what you do.
A year or two ago I would have scoffed at the notion of working at the shop that reached out, but now I find myself entertaining the idea. I love my current agency, but 10% raises, even with promotions, isn’t exactly gonna put food on the table. And if I have to sacrifice the perceived advertising fame to work on less-creative work, I think it’s at least worth entertaining
Rising Star
I’m about to take a 15% increase for a job that is probably 20% less interesting in terms of creative opportunity but at a shop that has an 18% stronger reputation.
I’d take it. Truth me told I’m about to hit 40 and want to slow down some. ESP since I have other things I want to spend my bandwidth on that isn’t my 9-5.