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Great recruiter! “I’ve got a great gig for you but you’ll have to take a 40k pay cut!” GFY!
BBDO - the point of this thread is to NOT make me feel anymore shitty about myself 😂
I bet she assumed that since you were working at Havas you were a social influencer on instagram and the 40k was being made up for by JP
Am guessing I know which NYC recruiter you are talking about...only because I know that is her way. She's been talking down to creatives, and making them feel small since the '90s. It's not you. It's her. 👊🏼
Havas OP - Have you learned nothing from the social media maven himself? You must respond in four word quips that mean nothing. Try again
Did you call her out for ma’amsplaining your credentials to you?
I’d send her an Edible Arrangements with a note that says, “Thank you for your valued opinion - I’m sure glad I can take a pay cut! Good thing I can still afford this little token of appreciation... And this is why we can’t have nice things.”
Also this sounds a lot like a Laura Laser story. She is notorious for getting obnoxious when you don’t show interest in helping her get a commission by placing you in a shit job
Ok its a lot to explain but i will try.
First of all most agencies and 100% of the big ones have in house creative recruiters. The in house recruiters will work with 1 maybe two headhunters exclusively. Those headhunters are on retainers by the agency. Meaning they WORK for that agency. When you go to a headhunter or if a headhunter is reaching out to you it is on behalf of 1 maybe two agencies. So they say we love your work where do you want to work... you say Droga... then they say... No i dont see you there. I see you at Y&R. Then you know they have been paid by Y&R to fill roles.
Ok- that is the basics. Thats not the shady part. Thats their business.
The shady part is that when you reach out to a headhunter and say you want to leave they use that information to get in touch with the in house recruiters to get new business for them. Make sense? So they will call your boss and say, “hello in house recruiter, how is it going over there? Are you looking for folks? I hear people are leaving.. etc
So they dont work for you. They also use your info against you. And the other thing they do is threaten the in-house recruiter. Meaning: they call in house recruiter and ask, “did you ever find a CD”? In house recruiter says, “yes we want to hire this person (non gender specific name here).” Headhunter says, “ wow. Great. Although i heard that person (sucks, is looking elsewhere, hates people, almost got fired, bullshit bullshit bullshit) - not saying dont hire them but you should at least meet (non gender specific politically correct name). I wont charge you. But if you love this person i also have a North American CCO who will change your whole Network.
Ok - that was ling but hopefully that helps.
My advice GO DIRECTLY TO IN-HOUSE RECRUITERS. They are honest. Avoid Dany and the Cougar Cartel of shady backdoor dealings.
It's ridiculously dumb to not help each other. That's all. We can take away their power.
Little Marco? Lying Ted?
Recruiters DO NOT work for you. They are paid by the agency. End of story. They could give a fuck about you. If the agency wants you then they will give you a little more love so you take their job they got paid to fill. They arent selling you. They arent Hollywood agents. And shady ones like Dany and the rest of the cougar cartel use all kids of other shady tactics that are too long to list and text out.
"Cougar Cartel" hilarious. 😉
Recruiters get the jobs that companies can’t fill BECAUSE they are paying far below the industry standard. She was just an idiot and needs to know she’s shilling shit.
Was it shitty Dany Lennon? Or irrelevant Greenberg Kirshenbaum?
Sounds like Dany.
^^ please list some of them ECD, you are onto something valuable for people to know
Money can’t buy karma.
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Sounds like that recruiter is not good at selling her talent and negotiations! NEXT!
Why didn't you just hang up. Fdb