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Ogletree is unlikely to ever raise salaries mid-year. They have a very specific comp structure in place for non-equities and raising associate scale means raising nesh comp amd they tend to do that at the end of the year through their comp committee.
In terms of hours, each office is different. 1900 gets you a step increase and a bonus with the other bonus structure kicking in at 2000. In my office if you bill 1900, nobody looks at you sideways for stopping there. Other offices are more aggressive in their own expectations. The shareholders in local offices control who they put up for partner, so you have to work with those expectations.
That’s a hard question. Of course there are, but i think all of those firms are also very “office” specific. Like at OD, some of the southern offices still required a jacket and tie until recently while in the midwest it was golf shirt and khakis all day.
JL typically does more insured work so their rates tend to be lower, i think that’s why their PPP are lower. OD does less insured work. They have an open compensation system for partners and I don’t know if the others do. Some firms place more emphasis on working numbers, OD places more emphasis on originations. If you are an entrepreneur/want to be a business developer, OD is great. Not sure about the other firms.
but it’s very city specific. In my town, Littler and JL have tiny offices, not many attorneys. They are not the primary competition for work or talent. In other towns that may reversed, etc.
JL is raising comp effective today.
Any update on JL’s increase for junior associates?
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Seyfarth just raised comp
They do! I can attest! Yearly and frequent market adjustment, bonuses as well. Great firm and good pay.
L&E is definitely not market rate. I’m a 7th year and make about what a 4th year makes on the new scale. Haven’t heard from my firm if they plan to raise salaries but I doubt it!
New York office.
Do associates at these L&E shops work less than traditional big law?
Everyone has diff experiences at same firm but for me, at JL, I have had a decent work life balance. 1850 billable, but billed 2010 this last year, though they listen to you if you say you're at max capacity they haven't forced me to take on something after I've said that. That's a lot different from my last firm where they didn't care if you were drowning.
Someone said Fisher did but idk how much
Don’t get me excited lol