CEH Review Request: I’m thinking about going for this very next to begin pivoting my career in the more red direction. I have CISSP and Sec+ already. Why do so many people trash this cert??

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A lot of technical practitioners see things like the OSCP or some SANS certs as a ground floor for security work. For pen testing, it’s a great floor to start from.

For people who implement security solutions/systems, they typically see particular tool or ecosystem certs as the way to go.

CEH has its place for those starting out and want to learn basic stuff about attackers, but it just scratches the surface. A lot of folks in the pen testing/offensive side kinda shit on it because there of lots of others who like to pose as pen testers/offensive and people who worked hard at becoming offensive professionals think it makes them look bad/ill informed/etc. Sort of like a first year little leaguer acting like they know what it’s like in MLB.

Use it as a learning experience, but it’s a first step and not and end to anything. So don’t be a CEH-bragger, but

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All of this. I’d also add that early versions of the CEH had a lot of questions like, “What’s the proper nmap flag to perform $type scan,” to which even most experienced people would simply say, “Who cares? Just run nmap -? and read the results. Besides, how else do you learn about new features?!”

I think it’s gotten better, but this is just one of the endemic challenges of writing an exam-based cert in an area where creativity is as valuable as repetition.

I appreciate these initial responses. I’m honestly just starting out making an attempt to immerse myself in the offensive side of things. I’m using my prep for the cert as just more training to expand my understanding of these types of concepts. Coming from the defensive and policy side of the house, I figure this is at least a decent little curriculum to to help me with that, leaving me to work those necessary countless hours on the practical application over the years to come. I’m merely trying to see what the rub is from all you folks out there.

Definitely not pride.... just something else to force me to learn something new (conceptually).

It’s a good cert for DoD work but commercial just go straight for OSCP and if your new to cyber in general Sec+ or Net+ would serve you better to get fundamentals down.

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