Compared to other departments it seems like creative often has the least amount of people of color. Why do you think this is and what steps can we take/are being made to get more of us in creative?

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One of the biggest, and hidden factors, is the cost of living in a city like NYC when you're first starting out in Creative. The pay isn't great and sometimes very difficult if you have Student Loans and CC debt to juggle.

You’re right, and I’ve been in this field for 20 years now. I fell in to this career by a bit of an accident and didn’t ACTUALLY know what a creative director was until about 12 years in to my career, which is when I realized that’s what I wanted to do.

I think part of it is simply letting POC know about these opportunities. I spend a great deal of time speaking at colleges and high schools to share my story and knowledge so that they are armed with what it takes to enter this field.

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