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Are you swimming in offers? Do you have a job currently?
It might make sense to take the offer if you are unemployed. This market is Grade A rubbish right now, and shows little indication of improving soon.
Yes I am interested job
If you are already making that much i would say;
I appreciate the offer, but I currently make ($X) and while I wouldnt be against taking a cut this is steeper than I can financially allot for. Given my experience (note them) and Im hoping we can get to where we need to be as I am excited to work for (company).
You can also use this if you don't make that amount currently and swap out the first sentence to; While I appreciate the offer this is much lower than expected (add the rest ... given my experience...)
It never hurts to ask/bring it up. At the end if they say no you didnt get what you werent offered, and can decide then.
Do you have out of town job's I will be able to work out of town what do I have to do is the job near me or is it out of town I'm ready to go to work Leora Ward Thank you
As others asked, do you want the job? If you’re excited about the Company 10K - 15K really isn’t that much. Not ideal, but not terrible either.
If you’re going to decline though, I’d ask them if they can come up $15K. They may come back and say they’ll come up $10K or something and close the gap a bit.
Supply and demand 101 here. If they’re offering 10-15k below expectations they believe they can get it. If no one accepts it, then the salary would have to go up. It’s a company market right now, compared to the employee market we had for the last few years. It got out of hand and needs to settle back down.
Tell them what you want if they won’t give you it then don’t accept the offer.
Really as simple as that
They didn’t lowball you. They offered you some combination of what they feel your worth, what they think you’ll take, and what they have budgeted to pay you. Just because you expected more, doesn’t mean they should have offered that. Want more, ask for it. Just keep in mind that they may have another candidate almost as good, if not as good as you who will take that number or less.
I find this all very funny just turned down a Driving job at orientation. When we first started talking dedicated run 1700 a week .56 cents a mile no touch drop and hook. Then the run changed wage changed to 51 cent a mile 1000 a week in the group of people I and it public I don't work for free. 40 year driving local 70 thousand to 100 thousand a year. So you ask for more money they should bend over back works taking care of there drivers.
Here is what I think . You know you are worth it. You take the job , later on you start to realize they low balled you, you get upset because instead of advancing in life you went backwards, your goals will take longer to achieve and you might get a little upset at yourself for settling. Know your worth if they really want you they will pay. If not someone other company will get your fabulous self!!!
Remember this is an extension of the interview. Can you articulate your needs/wants to me and justify what you are asking for? What made you come up with his number? is it based on your: Experience, the scope of work in the role, market research (is this the going rate)?
Bring all of that together and fire a counter. Something like
Dear Hiring Manager,
I'm excited to receive an offer letter, and there I am eager to accept this role. However, due to x, y, and z I believe that this role reflects a salary of (X+15K). As I see this role as a part of my lifelong learning and career advancement I would like to see the salary reflect my upward trajectory.
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Yeah, I had a similar issue. I applied for position that starts at 126K (to a max of 150K). I get strung along for 3 interviews, and then they offer me a position one lower for 80-85K. I get that since it is a lower position, I wouldn't get the same salary, but that is still a pretty significant drop (over 40k!) from what I originally applied for.
Not enough info in OP to provide an informed recommendation. Is the offer $10k short of an expectation of $200k (5% off) or $10k short of an expectation of $60k (17% off)?
For me, I'd be more concerned with the potential impact to my standard of living than I would about the difference between the offer and my own expectation in dollars. If the extra $10-15k would meaningfully change my standard of living, I'd fight/negotiate to get the offer closer to my expectation. If the difference would not impact my standard of living, I'd be less inclined to negotiate and more likely to accept (provided the new job offered other advantages that were important to me).
I used to have a salary for CA58k/year! Then I left cuz they never rewarded me a weekly or biweekly tips being a Soús Chef for almost 1.5year of working there, they said it's a company policies not rewarding management position a tip pool which sucks. Now I still work as a Soús Chef on a new hospitality/ restaurant company that gives me 52k/year but I'm rewarding an average $150/wk tax free!
I'm happy with that with less stress and duties/responsibilities.
Your thoughts about this?
You can always ask for their best possible. I know as a fact that my past employer budgeted xx amount for a senior position but offered the candidate $10K less. And when the guy asked them what's their best offer they adjusted it to the original budget.
But if that's already done deal and that's what they said the max they can offer you, then they have a strong reason why they gave that amount. You can either take it or you pull out... If I were you and situation is being unemployed, I take it (they knew it's with a risk that if I receives better benefits and offering in the future they would risk me quitting).
I think given the comments here, you've received a good variety of options. To add more, you have a pretty good sense of where you are in job search market and if you will receive more offers at this time. If things seem to be dying down and you're still getting an increase from your prior role, then take it if this is the last offer but see if you can gauge progression within the company, annual merit increases, and if you're maybe getting a better overall benefits package. If this isn't the case and you sense this is a dead end position, with no growth opportunity then pass, esp if you can financially afford to remain in the market.
Ask for more. If they decline, consider taking it if you're unemployed and need to get to work ASAP. Keep applying for other jobs.
If you feel as though this is setting off in the wrong direction from the beginning, it probably is. Unless you very much need this position, maybe negotiate increased PTO, but I believe you mentioned that you already let them know what you were looking for to begin with.
you can always keep looking for a new role while you work! take it, and continue your job hunt. maybe if you do get another offer, you can ask to match. these days i feel like roles are so hard to come by. get in, get paid, and do whats best for you.
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Tell them what you expect and if they don’t accept it, decline. thats what I’ve done in my career. At my previous office, I was the highest paid in my role (even higher than those that had been there 20+ years, unfortunately!) Your salary is putting a number on your value. Don’t accept less than you are worth. Period.
If the salary is the most important factor than id decline the offer if it is not negotiable, because otherwise you'd feel demoralized and the job hunt ensued
Hello- I have an interview but no salary is listed, it's Admin Asst. in the med field. I have worked in the admin industry over 25 years but this is a new field for me. Any suggestions? Should I ask for what I was paid in my prev job which I held for 15 years?
Have you countered? Always counter, as the worst they can do is decline, but you still have the original offer on the table.
Respond back (I’m assuming email) by expressing excitement for the offer, etc etc. However, that you would like revisit your salary given your qualifications/experience/etc.
In summary, always counter and have your business case ready. In addition, I (personally) I don’t put the $ amount I’m shooting for in writing. I simply provide my business case and make myself available over the phone to revisit the salary. It’s all negotiations from there.