Had an interview with a really rude VP from another company. He wants to have a second conversation. Obviously I’ll decline, but do I give a reason to the recruiter?

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How about something to the effect of “from our conversation, I believe the role may not be the best fit for what I am searching”? Truthful and still professional.

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There are probably 10.000 employers and you are probably going to need to work for 20 max in your lifetime. Screw the bridges and say how you feel. I have let many interviewers know what their weaknesses are and why I would not want to work under or with them. There are enough employers out there for what you need. No need to eat shit and it is also a duty of every single person to do their part. If three or more candidates tell that vp he is not someone that they would work with then he will either change himself or his org will change him with someone else.

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In an ideal world, yes, I think the best outcome will be that they let someone else handle the final interview.

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Just ghost the recruiter. They would do the same to you if the situation was reversed.

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Actually I like that suggestion.

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I would just be honest

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Don't shy away from the truth. His poor behavior should not warrant yours. Don't ghost the recruiter, as you don't want to burn bridges. We're all in this to learn, so teach. Give the recruiter the examples, and respectfully decline, as this is not a good fit.

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Preach! The people need to know what they are dealing with so they can make their own judgement. Will help them find better fits in the future.

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Examples of rudeness: talking over me, saying I used too many buzzwords to answer a question (it was a question about specific services from AWS so I answered with specific AWS terms- clearly he only knew the buzzword), asserting he thinks I lied on my resume because I didn’t know some people he knew from a prior employer of mine.

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Just be honest. Your not working there anyways

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Tell them that “based on my discussions with leadership, it seems that they were not so welcoming to me. It might be due to different work culture issues or internal issues within their management. “
Ps: I would recommend putting others in your shoes if one is having a bad day instead of shifting that anger onto someone else too.
Thank you for your time
Good day 😂

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Go see him again, just for fun. I’ve ended up taking a handful of jobs where I wasn’t going to bother with the interview. Worked out.

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Don’t be honest
Make up an excuse ( eg schedules are busy etc)

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Maybe you are very apologetic and say you are not a right fit for the company based on such things as things coming up in the interview like. Fall on the sword but point out what you feel was egregious or will never be fixed. Why bad behavior perpetuates. There is a way to bring it up respectfully.

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What’s the harm in taking the interview, anyways you are not going to accept their offer, believe me you will be super confident & the tables might turn....come on do it...

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I agree. It won’t catch you off guard this time. Plus you’re a consultant. Can’t be the first time someone tried to sh*t on you.

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If the second conversation is with him, no matter how much “the tables turn” because you’re not interested and they are, it’s still going to be a shitty experience.

For the recruiter, I view genuine feedback as a huge plus and a sign of an amazing person...because you don’t owe genuine feedback to anyone. If you want them to stop letting this VP interview because you (and in order to be impactful, probably others) give feedback that he was super rude in the interview, I think the recruiter would appreciate it. But you don’t owe it to the recruiter for sure, and there’s no “benefit” to you beyond potentially making it less sucky for someone else. You would probably not be able to work for that company while that VP is still there, or for anything that VP is connected to, but it sounds like you don’t really want to (right now. Times can change of course). The only question is if you personally think it would be worth it to close that book to give the recruiter genuine feedback and ammunition to make some change.

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NEVER TRUST THE RECRUITERS. They work for the team that pays them and applicants are definitely not paying them.

Politely but honestly tell the recruiter what happened. They lost you. Who else? The recruiter may have a discussion with the guy, or prep candidates, or both.

But, TBH, if this guy has any reporting relationship to the position, it’s good you found out now.

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Update: thanks everyone for the feedback and opinions. It was really helpful.
What I ended up doing: ghosting.
Sorry it’s a lame cop out but I talked about it with my friend who works there and even he advised that I ghost because nothing good could come from feedback. Says a lot about the company’s culture too. I guess I dodged a bullet.

Should have continued the process, and then when you receive an offer mention your experience and then negotiate a premium salary for dealing with the BS.

Tag him 😂

I would be honest, in a professional and polite manner. Sometimes employers think they hold all the cards, and that job applicants are not in a position to negotiate. That simply isn’t true.

OP, is the recruiter internal or 3rd party, if 3rd party I'll just ignore them as they would do to you if employer rejects you. If it's a internal recuriter and it's reputable company, email the recuriter and ask if they want to have a follow up...and you go from there...

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