Making the switch from plaintiff to defense L&E in January. Would love any and all tips from people who’ve made the jump (including partners who may have supervised these types of attorneys!)

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I made the switch as an associate and felt like my background in plaintiffs work gave me a huge advantage on the defense side. The biggest struggle was learning to bill and client communications. On the plaintiffs side you have a lot more leeway as far as decisions while on the defense clients are more involved in the process (ex mediator selection, etc). But overall I find defense work a lot more fun and less stressful. Congrats!

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This is super interesting insight P1! I've been considered a similar shift - interesting to see tht there is more leeway and that it's less stressful. Making me think I should be more serious about making the switch!

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Do it!

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I've been contemplating this for a while now. I have a friend who made the jump. And it was successful.

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I've now had two defense side jobs post plaintiff side. For both defense side jobs, the attorneys frequently went up against my plaintiff side firm so they respected my experience.

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