Hi Fishes,
I have started using fishbowl from around 6 months and I'm here in most of my free time.

A lot of you are suggesting people to join product based companies on their early stages of employment. I agree with that.
But
Why are you suggesting them to join service based companies as your last company and retire. My question is aren't product companies good for retirement?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I have not seen people suggesting someone to Join Service based as the last company to reach retirement...It can be very specific for TCS (which is true in case of any TATA group of companies ) or in some cases HCL. However In general it can be said that Service based are good to retire and there are few reasons behind that
1. Product Based Hire u on a comparatively good package..Gives u great hikes and over the years the resource become very expensive for them ..So these people can become the prime target in those rainy days. On the Other Hand, Doesn't matter on which package u join a service based , your hikes will be peanuts throughout ur life...and u won't become much expensive with growing inflation plus there will always be more expensive resources will always be joining the org with huge difference in CTCs.
2. Product based companies are usually dynamic in nature and everything is all about the product here. They grow when the product is in sync with market demand and continuously evolves itself..For this veey reason they are always in need of fresh mindset , people from diverse backgrounds , people who are open to new technologies and rapidly changing demands. This is done by hiring fresh graduates, laterals and restructuring the current roles and making some roles redundant by various methods. Service Based on the other side have most of the projects as support projects, technologies many of the times are old,outdated and work is very monotonous. U will become great resource once after building a rapport with the client..but given above reasons the learning and growth curve will not be steeper here( Now u can understand the reason of those 2% - 4% hikes in service based and 20%-30% hike in product based ) and since there are many such projects with them its easy to place resources and hence a good amount of job security.

P:s:- Above does not imply that Product Based companies are not safe in terms of Job security...there are many product based companies which are way more safer than any service based in India.

like

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation.

Related Posts

What’s something you learned about engineering only after you got your first job in the industry?

likeuplifting

Any Oracle ERP folks with advice and where to take your career after consulting? Optimal exits?

likehelpfulsmart

I frustrated working in my current organization, It is a product company but manager, consultant and BA are acting like service company, I want to switch I am not expecting too much hike from next company, what answer should I give to next company when they asks me reason to switch?

like

What’s your take on the FRM and CFA? Do the associations provide any noteworthy networking/sales opportunities? Does it help with recognition for promotions or acquiring clients? Are there any other titles worth mentioning?

Weighing/negotiating offer to stay in current role or jump - wwyd ?

Current base $150k
Unvested equity $800k


Offer $190k
Sign-on $75k
Equity $40k

Pros - wlb, career growth potential
Cons - offer seems a bit low given unvested at current company - worth it to even negotiate?

like

What should be the designation for 11+ exp in Oracle India?

like

What are the best prep materials to prepare for the CFA Level 1? Looking for some recommendations.

like

How do I get a job at a startup? I have an accounting/finance background, but don’t enjoy that work and want to get into the startup space (been interested for years).

like

Urgent because I have a job offer and my decision rests on the answer to this question

Is the specialist position in PwC India equivalent to analyst or senior analyst? Is it the junior most hierarchy level in the organisation or is it second last in the succession ladder?

Is there a way to start/jump to a informatica carear path when you are proficient in other mdm tools?


I've 3 yoe experience, 1yr associate analyst, 2 years as riversand mdm, i want to branch out to other mdm tools, since they are more well known. But every job portal expects X years of experience for informatica mdm.


My CTC has already crossed 9lpa , am i too far gone? Should I try to do the 40k rs Informatica certification program? Does that halp or is it a waste of my time?

like
like

Interested in eventually exiting into wellness tech.... what are the best consulting firms to start at?

like

What would be the best method to transition from a financial advisory role to a more financial analyst focused position? Is this type of move unheard of/too difficult to do?

Considering switching careers:

I got hired straight out from college 5 years ago from a small CPA firm and have worked in Tax ever since. Lately, I feel like this is not what I'm actually into. What else I can do with my Accounting degree?

My passion is Real Estate and Interior Design, love Managerial Accounting, I can sit for hours analyzing data, I also have a degree in Supply Chain Management.

My passion cannot feed my family but I've been burned out so much after years in Tax. 😞

like

Currently preparing to take the principal and superintendent certification tests. Are there any suggestions for great leadership books or pd for actual day-to-day roles/interactions?

Anyone with Jamf certificates ? Is there any scope and opportunity for one who completed this course...

like

Thoughts on CPOAX?

like

Interested in knowing peoples thoughts/experiences with exit opportunities when you have an MTS (multi-state) or SALT (state and local tax) background? Considering accepting an offer with MTS

like

Hey y'all, kind of a two part question:
1. I enjoy the people management more than individual contributor stuff. What career paths do you see in our industry for people who are managing support engineering teams?
2. What certifications are valued today? Seems like being a AWS Cloud Practitioner is a good general one, but are there others that stand out?

like

Considering going for the CFE. What was your study plan for it and how long did it take?

like

More Posts

Hey everyone please share ur quarterly ratings
Mine is Highly Valuable

Thoughts about Cloud Support Engineer -Security role

likefunny

Anyone done Invisalign recently? How was your experience and was it worth it? How long did you have then for?

like

I think I have ADHD. I’m middle-aged. This has never been a problem for me before, but I’ve taken several screening tests and I’m scoring really high. What do I do?

like

Do we need only HDFC or ICICI salary account in Barclays India or any bank account is fine? I have HSBC bank account but I heard that Barclays has tie up with HDFC and ICICI, hence confused

like

Hi everyone,

I have received an online assessment from Accenture for selenium Automation Testing.
Any one has any idea what sort of questions are asked. It will be really helpful.

Thanks in advance

like

Hi folks, i have recently joined tcs and now i had received a RnD kind of story and i have prepared the demo and also given the code to client as it was split between me and one client side developer. There are bugs in project but none of them are assigned to me. I had attended all the bug review meetings. Will it be a wise move to ask manager to assign me some bugs? Or should i just wait

like

I’m a copywriter hoping to find a designer/art director potential partner that is passionate about social change. I want to create something meaningful... anyone picking up what I’m putting down?

like

I’m really down in the dumps lately about how god-awful my CD is. Can you please share about the best CDs you’ve had and what made them great? Would love to know there’s hope our there.

like

Does anyone have a Getty easy access account they can share we me?

likefunny

Is there an attorney willing to spend 10-20 mins with me to review my response to a demand/collection letter?
Very grateful for any insights

Best response to why x firm?

like
like

HIPAA special enrollment extension: does this apply to major medical, dental, vision, health FSA? Thanks!

like

What is the courtesy of withdrawing an offer you already accepted?

Hello everyone!
I recently found out that I was being paid less than everyone in the team (more than 25% gap to more expe teammates, around 15% less than new hires)
We all had the same responsibilities, I consider I even had a heavier workload (talking in past tense since I very recently made an internal move).
Things to consider:
On a work visa
Non-white
Non-male
What would you recommend doing?
Keeping it to myself?
Speaking up? How? With who?

-TIA

likesmarthelpfulfunny

I Need a referral for BT. Can anyone Help?

Due to heavy rainfall most of the roads are blocked and flooded..Is JPMC allowing for WFH in Bangalore?

like

Signed up for a matchmaking service a couple months ago after getting tired of the apps. And while I’ve been underwhelmed with their process so far, I finally have my first match date this weekend. Haven’t been on a date since pre-pandemic. And never been on a true blind date like this. Wish me luck.

likeuplifting

The king 👑

Post Photo
funnylike

Additional Posts in Consulting India

Anybody needs referal for Barclays or TietoEvry can reply to this post.

like

If I had to compare between PwC India and EY India with regards to salary, who pays more? Looking for senior positions only, manager & above in technology consulting.. share pay range, pls.. exp. 11+ years

like

Hi Fishes,
I heard that food is free at Fractal offices, is it true? has somebody personally visited fractal bangalore office recently?
Thanks!

likeuplifting

Anyone knows how much actual bonus Bottomline Technologies give. They told the bonus will be based on company performance

Any help appreciated in knowing BCG interview process for the role of IT SAP ARCHITECT II & How much hike can be expected?

BCG designation and role for 11+ Years?

Current CTC 29LPA level 8 Accenture.
11.5 YOE in SAP Tech

like

What is the ideal salary package for the 7.5 year experience in the automotive industry.
Post graduated.

Skills:
Control system/System engineering
MBSE
Matlab/Simulink
FuSa

Let me know please

like
like

Do you also get DM requests over here and when you reply to them, they ghost you? Happened to me thrice on this app yesterday alone.

I found this is the easiest way to know about DevOps (Development + Operations together).

Post Photo
likefunny

I am a full stack dev and need to work somewhere outside India, how and where can I apply? APAC NAM EMEA anything will do, I just want to have experience working outside India, please help how should I approach this task.
YOE :7.5
Skills : .Net, React, Azure

PS : IELTS is already done, stuck on writing score.

like

Is intra transfer available from Mindtree Bangalore to Mindtree Canada if they get Canada PR?

like

Hi sharks,
One of friend joined
Tata Consultancy last aug and he is not satisfied with the package (7+ yoe and 10LPA) so he tried hard and now got IBM(18lpa) and Infosys (16lpa)
He dropped paper in TCS and then he was so confused and don't want to join any other organisation because of the job security and other benefits of tcs he asked his manager to increase pacakge manager denied and even with 0 hike my friend told he will revoke the resignation but the manager (cont in comments)

like

Hey fishes

I'm joining
Cognizant on December 23. What happens on the first day?

When will I receive my laptop?Cognizant

Got a call from Deloitte HR and she told me that if you're available for an interview right now. I asked I will be available after 8:30 PM or next day before 11 AM she said okay thank you and cut the call. Is this the same company right who wants there employees to serve a stict 90 days notice period. Immediate joiner ka toh suna tha but immediate interview ka scene hai. It looks like companies like Deloitte wants just an employee without knowing there knowledge and skills. What's your views guy

Which technologies do you see going downhill / uphill?

like

Hi fishes, need a advice I attended interview @ TCS on August 26th 2021.I was told that i was selected on september 21st 2021 and asked to upload documents in ibegin portal. I uploaded documents. HR told me that all the documents are fine and forwarding my profile further. But still experience letter/relieving letter section showing Pending for verification. Also still didn't get any update regarding salary discussion call/offer letter etc. don’t know what to do now !

like

Hi,

Is it necessary to complete
Globant augmented experience interview for selection?

What is the average salary of Data Engineer for 3-5 years of experience?

How many of you feel that there's less money in IT BA than IT product mgr, and switching to PROD is the only way after working as IT BA for few years

like

Hi Fishes , I will be joining Infosys on 19th December. Will I be applicable for appraisal 2022-23 ? Also what is the hike percent I can expect, I am joining as Senior Associate Consultant.Mindtree Infosys Tata Consultancy HCL Technologies

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal