How is PE investing in accounting firms going to end? Curious what people think.

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With PE firm partners making alot of money, PA salaries (for staff and ppmds) declining, and quality of public accounting services declining.

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Less pay more outsourcing push for more efficiency and a cut in benefits and perks.

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I don’t think it will end well. I think it’s boomers rushing to get their payout before retiring from the profession.

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This

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My question is how are pe firms getting away with murder in nearly every industry? Where are the regulations?

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And of course someone from a pe firm laughs at my comment. Portage point partners. Looks like a turd and a half of a business.

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It will not end well for the PE firms, and they will end up selling to a management buyout. The problem for PE is if the accounting firm is doing assurance work, you can't IPO the firm to exit the investment.

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No. It’s through a nominee ownership structure. CBIZ and Eisner got it cleared, as did one other firm that didn’t end up doing it.

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Don’t invest in a product that can walk out the door. I don’t see it ending well.

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Look at Vialto

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I don’t see it ending well. They’ll take the already lean operation and try and make it even leaner

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Enron 2.0

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Add-ons will be a nightmare and lead to firms self-imploding.

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Mergers until they can IPO the nonattest businesses

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The industry will end up with a group of partners that have been made to be middle managers with limited to no say. These partners will not know how to run their practice because the PE will have controlled every decision. Then these partners who are getting smaller comp will eventually have to buy the firm back because the required valuation increases are just not there anymore and we all know PE isn’t in this for more than 5-7 years. So these partners who did not participate in the original sale and likely aren’t getting paid how they should be are now forced to buy back. Meanwhile staff have been pushed overseas and to AI so the companies are lean and have pipeline issues finding the next generation. Not to mention overall pay is still not keeping up with inflation.

Sounds like a nightmare.

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I want to be optimistic. I believe we need to change the business model. But I’m not convinced PE is the best way.
I’m reading a book about PE in our healthcare system (“If I Betray These Words). It also shows the impact a rough regulatory environment has on a profession. This combination gives me little hope for the long term benefits of PE in accounting.
Private equity is about making profit, not about improving society or an industry. Boomers cash out, profit motivated MBAs run the firm, and the remaining employees and clients aren’t any better off.

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PE firms are investing in anything and everything, and surprisingly if you look at smaller accounting firms their earnings are are above 35% and that’s makes it a good investment. They will buy and consolidate to make it more attractive to the next PE firm. I do not foresee an IPO but a midsize very lean accounting firms with higher profits after they outsource most of the jobs.

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I know for a fact there are multiple very large firms exploring IPOs. It’s very attractive for the partners at firms with lots of nonaudit work because they don’t understand what being public means or what it takes to get there, and they think everybody makes a bunch of money. The only saving grace they have is that they don’t know what it takes and it will probably fail anyway.

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