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I got a call from HR and offer discussion was over couple of weeks back and still waiting for them to send me final mail to release offer. May I know if they take this much time to release offer, when I did a follow up call after 10 days they said they are waiting for some approval to release offer.
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I’m sorry but this is stupid/self-centered. If you want to whine about the need for sabbaticals then do that but dont make this about how firms very much necessarily need to accomodate families. We are talking about keeping another human being alive versus someone who just wants a paid vacation.. Not a parent fwiw.
Ah yes, this is the same associate that will make partner because, what else is there to do but have work consume your life and then make every associate under her absolutely miserable (esp those younger female associates with children). This has absolutely been my experience since there is no off button for said senior associate/partner. Hence, I left such firms. This post is proof of the resentment that said partners have for young associates with families. This rhetoric needs to change. You have no idea what goes into raising a child today. Its not a fricken sabbatical. Its work same as arriving at the job. There is no “time off”. Crazy this is coming from a woman.
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I don’t have children (would like to and I may adopt) and I generally agree. I don’t feel jealousy because almost anyone can become a parent if they choose to (even if not biologically). I think I only feel jealous of things categorically unavailable to me.
That said, the prevailing culture is set up to privilege people who choose to marry and have children. It’s not just law firms. I don’t know that there is any way to change that other than through long term cultural shifts. There are many ways childless folks can contribute to the world, many that are labor intensive (e.g. animal rescue, volunteering with refugees, caring for older relatives) but don’t qualify for automatic paid leave. That is unfair. It would be good to have “major life event” leave that mirrors parental leave. I don’t think of sabbaticals in the same way. To be equivalent to parental leave, it has to be more than just vacation/R&R time.
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I feel this so hard. I work extra on nights and weekends to help my community focusing on mutual aid. It’s not pro bono. It’s volunteer / community work that I’ll never get credit for or time off to dedicate myself to unless I use vacation (and it wouldn’t be vacation because it would still be work). Great point.
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BigLaw isn’t a prison- ask for a sabbatical if you want one
FWIW, we need to incentivise procreation in this country. Soon we will be experiencing negative population growth and are already there if you take away immigration as part of the growth. We need a new generation to care for the last one. These policies are one way to ensure the incentive is still there. Maybe it's by design unfair to incentivise procreation among our citizens?
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A6 - oh, I think we are perfectly capable of doing so. We just refuse to implement the policies that make it possible.
You know…it wasn’t always like this women would have babies and get fired (and really that risk still exists). Employers should accommodate people having families. You should find a different example, if you want time off, ask for a sabbatical or find an employer willing to give it you - but this comparison to parental leave it pretty myopic.
I used to enjoy going to the dentist as break from a day at one prior firm. "I need a root canal? How soon can I schedule it?"
Ask if you can remote work for a week or two. I have been on cabin trips, went to Florida, Mexico, South America and Europe while remote working.
Not to mention that I pay taxes for schools when I never had kids.
There are several life events (depending on where you are) that afford you time off, such as bereavement for the death of a close family member or a spouse being deployed or returning from deployment.
I mean, it’s the fact that there’s a second person involved (baby) that makes it compelling so ….