I am hoping someone can explain the Military Pay Grade to GS Level employe comparison as I attempt to apply for jobs in the next few months. In AUG 23 I will retire as a MSG/E8 Engineer/ Intelligence Analyst with 20 years of Active Duty Service and a BA In Intelligence Studies/ Criminal Intelligence. Everything that I find in my field is GS 13 or higher. Why are Senior Non-Commissioned Officers not equivalent to the JR Officer GS comparison?

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Save yourself, MSG - get away from Govt work and make some real money in the private sector. There’s some bias against enlisted in Govt but on the outside, they think an E8 and O4 were both doing saving private ryan shit.

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I’m in a similar boat. SFC 20yrs. Retiring January. There are SOME JMO programs that recognize E8 and above but by and large, I agree with EPY1. Every veteran I’ve spoken to on the outside said the same thing. The military is just a job that you did and you probably have some leadership experience.

If you do want to go the GS route, (because I researched it also) was to take whatever GS job you can get and move somewhere else for a better GS job. Because once you’re in the system you’re good. This is an oversimplification but theoretically correct.

If you want to keep working around Soldiers and continue to influence them, there’s not much I can say there; but if you’re open to possibilities, there is a need for you on the outside, especially in tech.

At any rate good luck and congratulations on retirement!

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Recommend linking to the officer structures since that’s how the upper tiers of the GS/GG system link; so E7=O1/2, E8=O3, E9=O5+, then you can do the conversion O5=GS 14/15, O3=GS12/13 and so on.

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Not sure if this could help answer your question, but its the best reference I know of. https://news.va.gov/94020/level-up-navigate-the-general-schedule-gs-system-and-find-a-va-career/#:~:text=Using%20your%20military%20rank&text=GS%2D1%20through%20GS%2D4,%2D8%20to%20E%2D9. Best of luck in answering your question further and following!

Have a TS? Not necessarily my lane, but it seems like the IC contractors make a lot more than GS and are basically doing the same job. Trade off is .gov pension and job security

Then you’re probably in a really good spot. Particularly if you want to move into the cleared tech focused space. There are other interesting companies like Anduril that are defense tech too.

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