I got put on a PIP today. Honestly, I didn't see it coming. This is the first time I've gotten formal feedback of any kind here. Is there any point in really trying to survive it or do I need to start looking elsewhere?

Wow, this is a tough situation. Many will want to give you advice that if you’re on a pip it’s already over. I think it’s more complicated than that. There are some things that you should consider straight away. Is the feedback fair? Is the feedback accurate? Is it reasonable? Can you resolve the feedback within the timeframe you’re given? Was there anything you missed prior to the PIP being delivered? Is this the type of job or a group or company you want to stay with? And then I think you should consider talking to others as uncomfortable as that may be. Is the management viewed as fair? Has anyone on a pip ever stayed with the group? Is your manager and your leadership trustworthy? If you make these changes will they just find something else later and then finally I think you need to think about yourself? Going through a pip can be very stressful. Being fired can be very stressful. Were you happy in this role before the pip was delivered? Will you be happy if you survive the pip? And finally, what does your prospect look like to get something else quickly? Is what you do unique with few opportunities or is it something that affords a lot of opportunities and you just need to start looking now to give yourself time? All I can recommend is this: you need to protect yourself; you need to try to mitigate risk to you and your family and after answering these questions it should be clearer on what you should do to mitigate that risk.

As someone who was put on a pip in her 8th year of service never had any before and was let go yesterday - I say get out.

Feels like something going in within management. You definitely should not blind sided by a PIP. At very minimum there should have been conversations to address the issues. I’ve seen many survive a PIP at Progressive but hear it’s the end of career at other companies.

Start looking in my opinion i was given2 weeksandfired after23 years..

A PIP is survivable. If you want to stay with the company make sure you make that clear with management. Get all the corrective action they want to see in writing and make sure when you deliver on those things you document it along the way. The other part of this is intuition, nobody on this thread really knows your situation, if your gut tells you the relationship with your manager/company has soured I would start prepping for new employment while delivering on the PIP. Good luck!

I can only speak from my experience. I had 10+ years of both solid and stellar performance evaluations; there was a change in upper management, and within one year, myself and many others (some with even more more years at the organization than myself) who previously always "met" or "exceeded" expectations, were suddenly put on a PIP which involved obsessive micromanaging and (arguably in some cases including mine) flat out harrasment and bullying.

Many quit/got pushed out and I was terminated with cause which is being vehemently grieved by my Union.

A PIP isn't doesn't necessarily lead to any of these outcomes but it certainly usually does.

I would strongly recommend that you actively look for other employment and good luck!

PIP is a precursor to getting fired/ let go/ location strategy/ new direction/ cost cutting or whatever you want to call it. This is to cover their track. I have been part of both side. Start looking, you probably have til end of the year.

A PIP is really just a part of the formal process in which many organizations use in order to let you go. Just like bad perceptions, most people never survive a PIP. I'll start looking for a new job.

Why are you looking at this as an either/or? Start looking elsewhere in your off hours. While you’re on the job, do the best you can to meet the terms of the PIP.

A PIP isn’t necessarily a precursor to getting fired. It depends on the situation and the company. A lot of the time, they just want you to do better. But it’s also a call to ask yourself some hard questions. Can you do better? What is stopping you from meeting this goal? If it feels out of your reach, then you definitely need to look elsewhere while you’re working on the PIP.

Yep! I'd start looking. This is the first sign of termination.

It depends a lot on where it's coming from. I ended up on a PIP after 7 years with my company, but I had a supportive manager who clearly stated what was needed to improve and who was there to support me through every step of the process, as he truly wanted me to succeed. I exceeded every single goal that was set and got through it with flying colour's. Another company I worked for never provided any concrete goals, targets or requirements for my job position and then tried to put me on a PIP after just a few months of employment, trying to say that I wasn't meeting expectations, adding a bunch of requirements in the PIP thst were outside of my control. That was a clear message to look for employment elsewhere.

My boss was put on a PIP for the first time in over 20 years with the company. Seems to be running rampant. As sales are
falling , blame is being thrown to the lowest denominator. My entire team is now scared as we are doing our best, but apparently our best isn’t good enough.

I had to do that to two 10 year employees during my second year as a manager. Upper management wanted them both gone, no matter what they did. Both completed their PIPs and both fired within months. Get out while the getting is good; someone has it in for you. I left shortly after that experience.

I was put on PIP and felt it was the beginning step to termination. I was given 30 days to improve on the deficiencies in my performance which I felt I could do. But the clincher was that management would not look at work performance going forward but rather review past work. I felt defeated because in my opinion this would not measure improvement. As it turned out, they did not see improvement BUT they offered a step down position I asked about during the PIP meeting but was told at that time the position is not available. Along with the demotion came lots of caveats. But oh well, I needed a job. However, in less than 3 weeks I was terminated anyway for what they say was due to my being disrespectful because I did not follow a directive (that happened a week into my new position) and they called that insubordination. It’s obvious they wanted to get rid of me anyway.
Based on my personal experience, begin job hunting unless you have very clear and defined objectives of how PIP success is measured and that you are able to
comply.

It depends on how you perform. I would though speak to HR/snr. Mgmt and asking for copies of previous coaching conversations or documentation of expectations. You mention that you’ve had no formal communication about your performance previously. In most companies to be put on a PIP there’s should have been some informal conversations or coaching taking place already. I would ask for that documentation so if for any reason you are let go you can take it further.

I think knowing how it’s viewed is important. At the large carrier I work for some departments have the belief that almost everyone should be on a PIP because that’s how improvement happens and if not on a PIP they should have formal goals set to drive improvement. Company culture and even department culture can have a large impact.

It may not lead tomtermination, but I’d be looking and learning what I need to improve on.

I applied for Pip and ultimately I cou;dnt get it because I'm in hospital with nurses, not out in the public

A PIP is an improvement plan. You can tell if your manager wants to see you succeed by whether your PIP has a plan. To correct a problem, you and your manager should identify the root cause. And the plan should address the root cause. Suppose the manager isn’t giving you additional tools to address the root cause of the problem. In that case, you know this PIP is just a precursor to termination, not a legitimate improvement opportunity. Best of luck to you.

I didn't know companies can put you on Pip. I thought that was an individual thing