I had a strange call with a recruiter. It was a screening call about a role but also to keep me on file for similar roles. Was a generic chat about why I'm looking etc. He then asked about my current salary, I said my expectations would depend on the role/bonus/equity etc. But he wasn't having it, kept pushing, so I gave my desired salary range. But, he wanted to know my CURRENT salary & when I wouldn't disclose it, he said don't think we can work together if you're hiding info. Is this normal?

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Probably not a recruiter trying to hire you, they are interested in how much people earn in different roles and companies, to build a database.

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Probably just a recon call. Shadier recruiters that don’t want to pay for actual data aggregated by companies will sometimes cold call to get a pulse on what competitors are paying their staff.

Either as a way to target snipe talent or just figure out what they need to budget for similar roles. Not the most ethical route but it does happen.

As a note: Don’t be stupid. Don’t reveal what you’re making now to any recruiter. It’s irrelevant and puts you on the back foot in negotiations. All that matters is the range you’re seeking and what their budget is.

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Would you guys recruiter cost WhatsApp because I've never seen anybody use WhatsApp

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This isn't really strange it's normal. If you're embarrassed about your current pay it's also normal just to lie.

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Just tell them a salary on the higher end of the range for your industry/location. They have no way of knowing if it's really your current salary.

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If you genuinely think you're underpaid in your current role give a figure 20% higher ... give them that anyway, what have you got to lose?

Anybody with 'agent' in their job description, (eg. recruitment agent), is in it for what they can make, not for your best interests - start your approach with that in mind and you are already on the front foot 👍🏻

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This was in the UK btw, London based recruiter

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I don't know what happened but starting ~6 months ago every recruiter I've spoken to demanded to know my current salary with various degrees of aggression. I usually give them my target salary and if they keep insisting I give them a rounded figure for my current.

I did have one guy basically call me a liar until I gave him the exact breakdown for my salary, wouldn't work with that guy again.

It was probably a "fishing" to try to get the real salary numbers from people in your role & experience working for the kind of company you are working for, for a benchmarking.
The way it was done is not moral.

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No, normal that is not. If he kept insisting until you gave him the exact salary? None of his goddamn business. On the other hand, noone says you gotta be 100% honest during the interview.. You could have also played games and named a random number.

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It may not have been a legit recruiter. There are reports of people fishing for info on other people’s roles to pad their resume and do “comparisons” when asking for more money at their current jobs. I’d google the recruiters name to be sure they’re legit and then report them t the generic HR line for the company you’re applying to.

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In some US states it is illegal to ask your current salary, NY is one of them. I don't think this is normal either way. You don't have to share info you aren't comfortable sharing with a stranger.

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Nope no need to do that. I work with recruiters all the time and absolutely no reason to give current salary. Don’t listen to others who say to just do it. Recruiter should focus on bringing forth the best candidates as that’s what he’s incentivized to do. Just end the call early next time.

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Spot on- don’t open up yourself for low balling and, at the same time, giving away your negotiation position when they’re not giving away their’s. It’s a two way negotiation- not all about the employer.

You should have asked if they were making you an offer…unless they’re ready to make an offer and negotiate, your salary isn’t their business.

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No. It is odd. Move on.

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I used to think the same and feared they would keep me in the previous salary bracket which I felt did not justify my experience. Once I chose to be transparent, I found that disclosing what I earned previously and setting the expectations of what I want to earn really set the bar for what I want from their future opportunities. No need to gatekeep especially if youre confident in your experience and skill set and you know it fairly meets your expected salary. Hope this helps - Wishing you good luck!

It was more of a fishing expedition than a recruiting call.

I've had recruiters tell me that their budgeted salary for the role is X and they now that's probably too low for me but want to reach out anyway. I've been candid with them and said, that yes, that is low for the role and suggest a counter number that is more competitive. Sometimes they will negotiate to that number but most often they walk to see if they can get someone on the cheap.

You don't have to disclose current salary. If he doesn't want to work together it's not like there aren't a ton of other recruiters around, so his loss.

It is normal for him to want to understand your salary and comp expectations and what you said - that it depends - is normal - but it would also be expected to give him some guidance as otherwise he has no idea whether your expectations are suitable for the roles he has. So you can say "I don't want to disclose my current salary but I'm looking for a total package of around x thousand, I could come down for a particularly interesting role or if the equity was good.

Personally I don't have much of a problem disclosing my current salary, it makes future conversations easier and it's not like it's a trade secret or anything.

One other thing; if it's an agency recruiter, they get a percentage of the salary you get. So they are incentivised to get you a larger salary. It's not big deal to disclose with these guys, they want to get you a larger salary with their client and won't lowball you normally.

Recruiters direct from a company are incentivised to get you a lower salary, so I'd be wary of disclosing with them, instead tell them your expectations.

If unsure which, just disclose your expectations.

The best way to understand what you are worth is to go for a bunch of jobs at the same time and compare the different offers.

That’s a a company you wouldn’t want to work for. In California it’s illegal to ask. In some other states they can ask but you don’t have to answer. That company sounds suspect

Some recruiters are desperate to know what various companies/clients are paying so they resort to these
tactics…

Next time, if you find yourself in such situation, please
stick to a salary range & let the recruiter know that no personal/confidential data will be shared till an confidentiality agreement is signed..

I had a recruiter ask me at the end of the interview if I had any offers. I thought that was odd.

Asking for your salary info is a no-no in the U.S. This was asked to see if you would be a fit to offer the position to. The counter to this question is, "What is the pay range for your position"? Kind of levels the playing field so you won't be offered the position at a much lower pay rate than they can pay. Pretty much being dishonest with you from the start.

I had an executive recruiter once reach out to me and indicate that my resume & skillset was in the top 10% of the resume’s that he had received. He then reached me by phone and discussed my experience. The recruiter said that he was very impressed what I had done over my career. He said that he was going to forward my information to the hiring manager. Within a day, the recruiter reached out to me and wanted to schedule an on-site interview with the perspective employer. I arrived roughly 15 minutes early, because the traffic was light and everything was running like clockwork. When I signed in at the reception desk, the receptionist called the team to let them know that I was there. One of the owners came down and met me and was very happy that I was a little early.
Well he brought me into a meeting room with the other owner, the gentleman that I would be replacing AND the recruiter that I spoke with a few times and was the one that wanted me to meet with the team right away.
After about 15-20 minutes into the interview, they asked the recruiter if he had any questions.
And out of the blue, the recruiter comes out and says that he doesn’t think that I would be good fit for the position!
I asked him why doesn’t he feel that I would be a good fit for this role? And why did he pursue me and arrange this meeting? I told them that I cannot believe how unprofessional this meeting was and it was a total waste of my time and money. It was bazaar,…. Has anyone experienced something like this????? If so, how can you report a recruiter like this yahoo?????

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