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Operations is the way to go -- making real changes, building client relationships and capabilities, better lifestyle, learning skills that are very applicable outside consulting. Strategy is sexy but not very engaging imo
Sure, Let's use an ops case as an example, and say we wanted to de-bottleneck a plant. Our team would swoop in for 2 months at a plant, ID the bottleneck, and help restructure org or teams to achieve the estimated results and leave. We'd work briefly with junior folks at the plant but primarily work with COO and plant GM. Big four would bring a team into the plant, ID the issues but often actually do the execution of debottlenecking things and/or run a project management office to check the boxes for a year. They might work with the COO, but probably exclusively the GM and his team. Ultimately the main difference is whether or not your firm does the execution and implementation, or if you set your client up to do it themselves after you've defined the strategy.
Most people who don't like strategy dislike that they never actually see results. It's purely a recommendation and they leave - the impact is not felt. Did you experience that op?
Say more. My friend says she hates the lifestyle, but I still drool at the preffftige
Agreed @p2. On a market sizing/growth strategy project now. I don't like the emphasis on the "story" and pages, partners changing their minds on seemingly small issues result in doing and re-doing multiple analyses over and over as the story changes. There's a lot of going in circles in my opinion and I feel like I'm making pages instead of impact - none of this feels tangible to me. Also worse lifestyle and more limited client exposure
I've loved my other projects though, ops/org work that many strategy type people consider "boring"
I have done some strategy work. Total BS, full of politics, not worth my time as all. Op you are not alone
I do love strategy work. But every now and then the former engineer in me misses making the rubber meet the road. So I mix in an ops case from time to time.
Yeah strategy work can make you feel like an author of a book / magazine sometimes. Just tweaking a storyline that someone may or may not even read. If you jump to industry people just don't care about that as much / doesn't matter
I don't have a black biz card, and even if I did the MBB crowd trends to look down on ACN as a true strategy player. That said, I'll take successful delivery of something tangible over a slick PPT any day
Did a few strategy projects before deciding to go the data science route. I much prefer delivering code to power point decks.
Mck2 that's been my experience, which is admittedly limited. Kiss up to your partner and make him look smart, kiss up to the client and justify their preconceived conclusion. I feel like I can have just as much strategy impact with a bottoms up mentality. What do your stars do? How does the rest of the org differ? Translate the star differences to org-wide policy.
What about the strategy work have you not liked?
I like to mix it up - the strategy work keeps me mentally engaged, but the ops work is better lifestyle, more client interaction, and much more impact / value / results focused which I can appreciate. I think the blend is ideal. Plus I question "strategists" who have never done an ops / integration / implementation engagement. Finally - ops cuts those big checks
What's an ops engagement versus implementation?
I like PE DD, quickly learn a market and advice a client to buy-not buy. Much less fluffier than the growth strategies I worked on, and much more useful I think for exit opps (e.g. Corp dev)
They externally sell PE DD as Monitor Deloitte, but it's staffed by M&A Strategy.
What's some strategy work you don't like OP?
Done both- ops feels much more tangible and impactful. Strategy seems much 'fluffier'
What's an MBB ops case like? Example? Some big 4 "Ops projects" can be a team of 100 sifting through contract terms for weeks at a time...but just an example there.