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Hi Fishes,
I have 7.3 YOE and my Tech Stark is SAP UI5/ Fiori Developer.
I currently have 2 offers in hand, one from Sopra Steria, Technical Lead 2B - CTC 18.6 LPA which is completely fixed and the other offer is from Capgemini, Manager C2- CTC 18 LPA(Variable 10%) and joining bonus 50k.
Please help me by suggesting which one I can go forward with.
Thanks !!
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In some states and localities it's not even legal to ask about your current salary. If you don't want to reveal it, just give them your expectation for the potential new job. But even then, make it clear that you answer would be contingent on conversations about the exact job duties.
If an employer asks me for my current salary, that’s strike 1.
Sharing my current salary is a non-negotiable red line for me.
I’d shift the conversation to what I believe the position is worth and, given the totality of the compensation package offered, what I believe the job is worth to me to work at.
But, I’ve never applied to a position from a position of weakness. I have never needed a specific job (because I’ve always had one), so walking away is quite easy for me to do.
YMMV. You’ll have to approach the conversation based on your own calculation of whether is this the right fit for you and what you’d be willing to give up or require to work it.
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Don’t give what you currently make, but give your expectation. If they ask, say that your current salary is not in a related field, so is not applicable to the role.
When I was in that spot, I made sure to research salaries for that role and location, and I gave them a range I’d feel good about. I didn’t even mention my current pay unless they specifically asked. And when they did, I explained it’s from a totally different industry with different compensation standards. It didn’t seem to throw them off!
Check the H1B visa salary database for similar roles and also this company.
Start high! Maybe current +20%? But do a little intel on what's reasonable first.
Did you sign an employment contract for the current role? If so, it probably states you have to maintain confidentiality. Mine always have. So I never disclose my current salary and always advise that I am not privy to do that per the terms of my employment contract. It resolves that issue. Then you re-focus the conversation to ask them to make ancoffer based on their approved budget. Depending on the offer you may want to counter for ~10% more than the offer, but don't go overboard.
Ask for the benefits details before you can give numbers. 401k match, co-insurance for family, etc., can easily represent a USD 40k difference.
Just be transparent but confident. Do your research on what a role like this will pay and choose a number within that range that reflects what you bring to the table. Then when communicating it, say your current pay is $XYZ but that is in a different industry and you believe $XYZ will reflect more for this role.
Stay away from sharing your current salary if you can. "Just say I am expecting to make [insert high range of salary]." They will then offer you something slightly less, but since you gave them a high estimate, the negotiations should land you somewhere that you are happy with.
Use public resources, ask Google how much an XYZ Earns annually, Let the AI reply and then go into thew search results and check glass door, indeed, etc and theyll show you a range of what employees earn with x#yrs, etc. Ive found that it works and also separates out commission.
be sure to check the job posting or ask google for clarity because some employers will quote the total earnings to include value of benefits and PTO... just CYA.... ask for the high end! You're worth it... cost of living is'nt getting any smaller! Good Luck!
Ask for the salary you want/need. It doesn’t help your situation if you take a job and still can’t pay the bills unless you are PLANNING on working two jobs.
Not sure where you’re located but in Illinois it’s illegal for a company to ask what your current salary is.
Try " I know you have a budget for this position." I cannot speculate what that could be. Where do you think my skill set fits in the budgeted range?"
I was the other way around. I was getting a lot more at my previous job and willing to take almost half cut of the salary on the new job I was interviewed and the deal failed. Not sure what the hiring manager is thinking. The best thing is not to tell what you been making in the past and ask them what salary range for the role for the company. Then you can decide if the rang fit your need or not.
I had a company ask for that too. I lied... I knew their salary range vs. where I was at at that time. I worked at a University and moved to a garage door company. I told them my salary expectation to where I felt I should be at the time. Two different companies and two different industries. If you are paid $5 pr yr in this current position but you KNOW that you can get $10 pr yr in the position being applied for... tell them, you were at $10 pr hr. Could I back fire, I doubt it. You should ask your current HR officer if they tell outside companies salaries of employees.. However, that might tip them off you are looking.
Think of it this way... you are selling yourself. Would you undersell something and then TRY to make up that difference through negotiations, I think not.
Go in with a strong base salary requirement. I have a range myself (looking for a job). IF IF I do take a job that is below my range, I will continue to look for work until I hit that spot where I feel comfortable and the environment is where I feel I can have success.
Oh, that job that wanted to know my current/last salary at the University? NIGHTMARE !! The manager sat two feet behind me for a week and I don't mean at a desk either.. I mean, in a chair, legs crossed, on her phone watching my every move and conversation.
So that would mean you got the job at the salary expectation you presented, with the way the manager closely watched you, right? 😅
If it is a perfect fit why don't you just tell them that you want the job so let's make it work. Ask them what number they're thinking and if it's more than you're making right now and it's in a range and since it's a perfect fit just grab the job
Facts are your friend. What worked for me is to send the company copies of 5 similar roles that are being advertised by other companies, then ask for the average of those 5 advertised salaries.
Ask them what their range for that job is. Then ask them what skills are needed for the upper range. Give real examples of what you have done and can do to reach that upper tier. It will also help to know what skills to learn or work on. Room for growth. Good luck!
Rule of thumb..... always tell them your current salary is 5K more than your actual salary. Your former employer can't give that information out. Win Win for you. Good luck! If you get the job and 5K more, let me know, I'd be happy to know that you were successful.
It sounds like they're trying to low ball you. Don't settle for that, just research the job title and salary in the city you'll be working at. To get an baseline for the role. And if its a lot more than your making now no worries, apparently the role requires that pay structure.