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Please if you can help and advise?
I have just joined Amazon Retail as sr Program Manager a month ago. I miss banking/technology now. I have heard that I can move teams. I know it’s too early so I don’t know how to approach this situation and potential HMs. Reaching out to this community to seek help if you have similar roles for which you (or your network) is hiring, would you be able to help? It’s better to be in a relevant role and be best than performing poor in current role. Please help.
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A lot of time the salaries just get set by the marketplace. If people accept lower pay that can become the standard. And in a job market like the present, someone who needs a job will take whatever they can get. It's good to advocate for more, but it may not always work, there are plenty of other candidates for any position.
I have never understood that either. I think that is pretty normal for the industry though. It would be much cheaper to retain employees but sadly, companies don't seem to understand that.
That hiring manager has other issues, obviously. When I was partners at an agency in Atlanta in the early 2000s, we paid interns $17.50 per hour. (I based it on the entry level salary at the time). That was 25 years ago. If $17 is the norm,l today it will not bode well for the future of the industry. My JPL protégés are making much more than that at entry level, so it may be the company that you are working for. That said, pay has not kept up with inflation and the industry’s profitability is reflecting an attitude that diminishes the industry’s ability to foster the best talent. I hope the job is a great opportunity to learn and grow.
But why
Why?
Yea, because you don't know it yet and wont be able to see it until you're more experienced, but juniors are more work to manage and grow. It costs money to invest in their growth. They can't help as much as they think they can. I can probably do in like 1-2hrs what it would probably take a junior person most of a day or two to do and they might ask me a lot of questions along the way. So, juniors are kind of a lot of work, but it's necessary and important in the long run to train them. We tend to give them the grunt work most of the time and a few fun projects occasionally, but honestly, most designers starting out, except maybe a few at the very very top end, will be kind of bad at what they do for a while until they just get more experience and grow. Even the ones that will end up being amazing at their job. It's very universal, even if you think you're really good, you just aren't developed enough yet.
I dont see how any of that justifies earning less than the shopping cart pusher at the same time? A junior designer is hired because they can do the work they're being assigned, and yes while there will be room to grow and learn and some training will be needed, theyre being hired because they already have the majority of training and skills necessary for the position, and show promise to be an even greater asset in the future. It's that classic conundrum "I need experience for a job but I need a job to get experience." You wont have any senior creatives left to train juniors if they all jump ship at the lack of growth provided them.
$20/hr is still too low though. $30-40/hr is more normal
If you can point me in the direction of a junior designer job that pays $30 - $40 an hour, ill be shocked and overjoyed and wish I'd found that sooner. That's the range im in now as a senior designer/art director.