Is it unethical or morally wrong to quote very high estimates to potential clients you don’t want to take? And what if you disagree with their business practices?

They are taking clients from their former employer, and it doesn’t sit right with me. I am 💯 judgmental of them.

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Nothing wrong with saying no by pricing a client out of their range. Be careful though- there is a chance they agree to your high prices, and then you need to consider if you want to give an unequivocal “no” or hold your nose.

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This happened to me in October lol. Took a routine post judgement modification of alimony case I wanted no part of and quoted the client $18,000 the dude wrote the check. Case wasn’t as big of a sh*t show as I anticipated so it worked out. But now I’m emboldened to quote $18,000

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You should be proud of yourself for actually examining the way you feel and your willingness to accept insight and feedback on a matter that is critical to how you choose to conduct your work practices and work ethic. That's the thing that makes you great. Just saying no will empower you that much more. No one will can extract anything from your stance besides seeing a principled decision maker. Have a great day, and be kind to yourself!

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You disagree with their behavior and business practices but are willing to look past that if the fees are high enough? Everybody has a price I guess.

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This is very helpful. Thank you.

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What's wrong with just saying, we can't help you.

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Generally just because you can help, doesn't mean they are entitled to your help... Seems more like a question for therapy.

I don’t think it’s unethical but if it were me I’d just say we aren’t the right fit because of lack of capacity/expertise/whatever.

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I would just tell them that the attorney is not taking any new work on right now rather than gauge on fees to make them go away.

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There’s a price for services and a price for the headache of dealing with them. If you don’t want to deal with them but wouldn’t mind the money, then make it worth it either way - they walk away and no headache or incur the headache for a price you’re happy with. It’s like putting your hand in a tank of spiders for $1,000.

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I would say it is morally and ethically wrong to overprice a quote. It’s pretty simple to communicate if you’re not comfortable to do the job. If not then you’re in the wrong business.

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I'm only regurgitating what they offered me that's it God bless bye-bye

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By the way, why do young people (in their 20s) think they are entitled to take their employer’s clients? It’s annoying.

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But I guess it comes down to how you define "stealing". I can agree with not soliciting your prior employers clients, but if you did such a good job and the client wants to leave with you, I don't think you should have to turn them down.

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Why don’t you just turn them down? I am very selective in what private clients I take and I just say “no.”

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"I'm sorry, I'm unable to work with you (on this matter, or case right now."

And if they ask why, just sit there and stare directly at them withour saying a word. Not aggressively, just calmly

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"Our conflict check process identified a conflict that prevents us from representing you at this time. Best wishes..."

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What if you gave them absurdly high rates and they accepted, and then you get back to them after supposedly running your conflict check and say you're conflicted out? Due to attorney-client privilege, you can't say more about who/why. Would that work?

I don’t think an attorney should be lying to potential clients… Just tell them no if you’re uninterested in representing them.

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Nope

Just say you regret that you cannot represent them at this time due to being at capacity.

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If you are asking that question, then you already know it is wrong. Just say no and don't be greedy.

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