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When is it best to leave consulting? Here's how I think about it.
First, are you enjoying it? If so, why leave (it can be a great life long career)?
Second, are you still learning fast? If not, you're missing out.
Last, what skills do most employers value? In my experience, this dictates 2 optimal jumping off points:
(a) 2-3 years in. Consulting "tool kit" is solid
(b) ~1-2 year into Manager. Employers value experience managing people.
See: www.linkedin.com/in/richrosser/
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Sounds like you’d be happier in 1. If you’re happier you will progress faster.
I would go for option 2 and reasons why:
1) you are working with your mentor and have a supporter - not many people get that opportunity
2) this role at $300k can turn to $400-500k in 2-3 years or less within the current firm or another firm
3) working remote 100% will impact your career growth
4) I don’t see 100% remote work go beyond the next 12 months. Perhaps some hybrid option, but let’s see. I have heard clients and companies in NYC want people back in the office at least 3 days a week.
End of day is what you want. If you want balance and work remote you go for option 1. If you want to grow and excel in your career then option 2.
Freakin baby boomers should just retire. Remote work is the future.
I would go with the advocate. There is too much value there in my experience, unless you are 100% ready to accelerate past them or onto new and better. That’s me basing it on my experience of having and not having advocates.
Seconded. I can’t wait to leave Deloitte but I will be sad to not be with my coach. Greatest coach I’ve ever had.
Daaaaaammmmnnnn.. following. Also what you should also do is journal literally weighed pros and cons at a granular level
Can’t stress the value of having a fully remote job enough. Whatever you want to do, you build your life the way you want it.
You can log off and be on a ski mountain. You can log off and be at a surf break. Or you can log off and be down the street from your friends and bars/restaurants in a big city
I’ve had that flexibility for the last ~6 months, and only a few days into signing a lease now down the street from my office I’m realizing just how valuable that flexibility is and just how much that kind of freedom can do for a life.
Especially if you hate NYC, think strongly about taking the remote job. Why live a life you don’t enjoy? Life is short. $200K+ is a badass income and will stretch farther outside the city
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Key questions:
1. How does WLB compare? You just had a baby, anything intense is basically off limits for your own sanity and relationship.
2. Are you planning on staying at either company forever? If not then what gives you best exit ops - the industry you love or the one you hate.
I have a young kid and #1 is the promised land for me.
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Another important note: while offer 1 is very interesting work and I would develop a skill set in an industry I am very excited about, there is a general perception that the BU I would be joining is a “dinosaur” and not a growth area for exec team. While I recognize not ideal, it’s still a foot in the door to an awesome company/industry and I’ll be able to switch teams in 24 months or just go to a different company and take a more senior role with the relevant experience I gained.
Congrats on your literal baby :)
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This is very difficult. I would probably go with the advocate because a good advocate is crucial to development and growth.
Still, offer 1 sounds compelling. Something else to consider is that being fully remote from the onset may make it difficult to build connections and trusted relationships. Will you be able to travel and get to meet your co-workers? Also, is everyone fully remote, or are there groups that are centered around some key offices?
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That’s awesome, and will definitely help.
Still, you will be at a disadvantage connection-wise. You’re talking about 4 or 5 days per month versus 8 - 12 days per month, plus others living near each other so being able to meet up outside of work hours, etc. I’ve watched some people really struggle to build relationships and a firm standing in the team by being fully remote (even with occasional travel).
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Can I ask what you do? Lol
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Great 😊
One thing you could do is try to job shadow or trail either of the roles for a day or week if you have the time. Sometimes through that you may realize what your intuition is saying and how you’d feel in each of the roles. Also - are you sure your going to keep liking remote work when things go back to normal? Are you falling for a “grass is greener” fallacy and just assuming the new job will be better because your less familiar?
My push is to get more information. Speak to folks doing each of those jobs and ask them to walk you through a day in their life.
What’s better in the long run in terms of balancing happiness, family, and career success / fulfillment (or your other values)?
Just DM me the one you don’t choose. If you can’t make up your mind by noon today, let me know and I’ll pick one and you can take the other.
210k is NO SIR, F**K YOU money in most of the world. Take it and live it up.
I know that’s right!
How do you know you’ll love the role and industry in 1? Sounds like you have a better idea of what you’d be getting yourself into with 2
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I am still deciding. Leaning towards option 1 & LCOL area. Feel like 300 in NYC = or close to 210 in Dallas. Will update once decision final. You all are awesome. Appreciate your input. Option 2 career 🚀 is hard to pass up on though..
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Building a home and spending more time with my family as opposed to spending more time in a city I don’t like in an industry I don’t care for
Selling your soul for 90k? Would be a no for me.
Plus, NYC is crazy COL so the 90k will most likely completely disappear.
Wait why do you hate nyc?
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How are you getting in? Bus? Also live close by. North Jersey is hideous though
Mbb associate? Still two great offers. Congrats
210 and live in TX or TN. Easy
How is this even a question in your mind lol offer 1 sounds amazing! NYC is disgusting
I’d go for 2. We are in the most productive phase of our life and we should make the most of it.