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Ok? As a fellow Deloitte practitioner, I’d hope you’d understand that we do have clients who require a PMP certification. For example, we have system implementations where clients expect those who are filling project management and program management roles to have a PMP certification, especially in GPS. Please educate yourself before posting a comment like this.
If that’s the barometer on whether it’s filler, outside of applied experience, everything is useless including your degree which is only used as a barrier to entry, but that in itself is its usefulness
Rising Star
Most people who got PMP got it not because they wanted to but it was a requirement for something. I was close to going for it because it was required for a project but I ended not taking on the project
Chief
How/is it valued in commercial sector? Pls help before I drop 2k on PMP bootcamp
What kind of job requires a PMP?? I’ve worked and submitted countless proposals in my career and never have we included anything about any team members having PMPs.
I got it in order to fulfil the gov credential. (BAH paid). Very insightful for someone like myself doesn’t always move through a standard project format, but now I understand where a lot comes from.
I do believe the entire story behind the PMP institute is bs, (the test itself is a mofo and the prep needed for it is insane and the f’ing price 550!) Me being someone that supports gov and continues to, many jobs want you to have it. So YES, someone like me, would have it in order to set myself for growth.
That is my TED talk lol
Not surprised by this thread... Haven't met any lifer consultants at D that even understand the basics of managing a project.
Agree that people who casually drop it or list it after their names are generally tools as well.
Chief
If (project_budget <= low OR project time <= low, submit_cr, more_ppt)
Did I get it right?
Wut?
Pro
What’s better is people who have PMP, end up quoting PMP in their everyday work and end up crash and burning
Rising Star
Wait, what does the post mean? Is this a younger generation slang? #I’m old
I got it because I could be put in as the lead for a couple of government contracts and Deloitte offered a $3k bonus for it. Do I use it? Not really but it was good to knowledge you have especially when dealing with large multi year projects.
Chief
Big PMPin'
Weird coming from someone at Deloitte bc I know for a promotion from SC to M you need a certification, and if you’re not an accountant it’s typical to get the PMP (which D helps by covering cost of boot camp and test)
Not a requirement lol
I don’t know what some folks are talking about how getting a PMP without experience is useless because you can’t get a PMP without PM experience. I’m not in industry currently so have no idea if it’s worth it, but I actually started there in small tech firms and you could not get hired as a PM 7-8 years ago without it. It was required and respected exactly because you have to show you have experience because PMP forces you to prove and get signed off the hours you spent specifically being a PM, 36 months of experience if you have a degree, and 60 if you don’t
Here in consulting, it doesn’t seem to be a big requirement, specially with Agile’s popularity and that may have transferred to industry in the past 8 years, although I have heard of some older clients who still feel that giving them someone without a PMP is giving them someone without experience
You can use like home remodels as project management experience for PMP. It’s a little outdated and waving it around kind of gives a signal that you are compensating for lack of a real skill set.
Get it, just don’t put it in your name on LinkedIn, same goes for MBA, etc…
Lol I love seeing John Doe, MBA, PMP
It's been a requirement for gov contracts I have run. And as someone with a tech-heavy background, it gives some level of credence that I know how to do the needful on the PM activities.
On my own personal resume, though, it is waaay understated, down with the other certs.
What is a PMP for the un-initiated ?
Rising Star
Project Management Professional from the PMI or project management institute
I did my CAPM and it helped me get my first consulting job (SAP project management analyst). I beat out other candidates because I already had it. From there, I got project management experience and had my PMP booked while interviewing at another consulting company. I feel that helped me get the offer and when I passed the exam it helped build credibility on client projects.
That said, I think it depends on your specialty and career track. For me it’s been beneficial and made sense and has paid off (certification bonus payout helped incentivize it too).
Rising Star
This is amusing considering PM roles bring in significant revenue for our firm and most of our clients seek PMP certifications.
I guess it’s only fair that if you see Deloitte on a resume, know they could be the kind of person to make posts like these. 😅
PMO and Change Management rarely have experience and knowledge around the specific content and are quite honestly often ignorant and annoying. Especially Change Management 😂 Delivery practitioners do all the work regardless hence the hostility. Good point above regarding running PMO at client request. Revenue is revenue. Disagree if you’d like but my perception is fairly common and isn’t perception reality? 😂
Coded what exactly? Stop pretending. 60th transformation??? 🤦🏻♂️ My end to end transformations probably average 18 months. The reason PMO and Change are the “fastest growing” is because it doesn’t take real experience to follow frameworks. Most Core Finance consultants across the big 4 are generalists and do a lot of staff aug type arrangements. I can toss any generalist into a PMO or Change role at any level associate to Director. I’m not even trying to bash generalists. They are the majority of our practices. You’re a body that’s easily replaceable. I’ve been at EY and PwC and I can’t say one PMO or Change group was different in either place. I’m sure you’re a good PM. You will make partner some day and I’m happy for you.
I got it because it looks good for clients and promotions in the gov sector. Did I seriously get any value out of it besides those two aspects? Absolutely not.