So after working several years at Deloitte, I've got a meeting invite to be told that my last day is tomorrow, wow no explanation no reason just business no longer needs that position. What are your thoughts? I would no be so upset but that comes right before holidays and after so many of years of grinding believing in careers growth at Deloitte. Is it all a lie?

likehelpfulfunnysmart
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

I worked for IBM for 7 years. Forced to work 60 hours a week and only pidd my contract 38 hours. Thought I was doing the right thing. My parents both got sick and eventually passed away. Immediately iBM found out I was needing time off I was told good by over the phone. The termination notice had to be hand delivered but it was emailed to me.
There organisations do not care about their employees. You are w cost to them. After my parents died I tried to get back into the the work scene but told I was over 55 anne had no possibility.

I had worked my whole life for these type of selfish companies..

I'm so sorry this happened to you but it's not you. It's their selfish $$$ calculator as you are a cost not a benefit

likehelpfulsmart

Whomever told you there's no possibility of getting "back into the work scene" after 55 is complete BS. I know several people, including myself, that have gotten new positions well after 55. If you have the necessary skills and experience for the position, you're still a strong candidate after that age.

likeuplifting

Sorry to hear that. I’ve been thru that myself. In the end, you realize that all the corporate cheerleading, and talk about “teamwork” is feel-good bullsh!t. It’s all about the money. Tell them want they want to hear, and take them
for all you can. NEVER sacrifice your family time, or put yourself into a compromising position for ANY job.

likehelpful
Recent IconRecent

I’m sorry you are going through this. I know business is business but I hate when they do these things right before the holidays. It’s never a good time but still.

like

That is disgraceful. You've only just hired them and they've moved coast to coast and then you sack them??? words cannot explain the anger I have.

Business is amoral.

likesmarthelpfulfunny

Sorry to hear this and that you’re going through it right before the holidays. I was part of a company layoff last December 15th. Felt like I was thrown off a ship. After a few weeks, I realized, “Maybe it was a good thing that happened.” Because looking back, it taught me “how to swim”. If I learned one valuable thing about this experience: value my time. Meaning, as a W2, I’ll get the job done, but I won’t go overtime.

Hoping you find your next role sooner vs. later because the market’s been tough. Network now, if possible.

likeupliftingsmart

Seems like a lot layoffs are happening this December

Budgets are tightening and consulting is (or will) get hit, hard. Think of your hourly rate - not what you make, but what get you billed to clients - or if you’re M or higher, how much more difficult it is to sell right now

So even if you had a strong performance in years past, the world is changing very quickly along with market conditions. Don’t take it too personally it’s likely forces greater than any of us individually. Get some R&R for now

like

Same here. I was one of the those who were laid off by Deloitte last October and the job market right now is not so good, to add to the challenge, my kid is under the spectrum, it is really a struggle. I am just hoping and praying that I will find a job soon. Hold on to your faith, pray and take the necessary action. We will find a job soon. I will include you in our prayers.

like

You have been out of work for a year? Oh no

like

It's the market, unfortunately. We could also think that someone else needs to hit their numbers, albeit at the expense of your role. Sad, but true in some cases. I wish you good luck. 🙏🏻

likehelpful

At-will employment.

like

Many years ago, this exact thing happened to me. Working for a small contractor to the govt, I was asked to meet with the CEO just before Xmas. Because I had tangible proof of contributions through increased contracts, extensions, expansion, etc. tied to the company's bottom line, I thought I was going to receive a large bonus. Quite the contrary! Because I was such a contributor, rather than let me go at a manager level, the CEO wanted to personally thank me for my efforts and explain the downsizing company-wide. He thought I'd be honored that I wasn't being treated like "regular staff" (insert swearing emoji). LOL. Long story short, two years later when working through another agency, I was contracted to support one of that company's contracts and ran into that CEO who said they'd "messed up" with my release and offered rehire. I smiled and said "you can't afford me now"!

Good luck in your future endeavors. Keep your head up. You'll get through this and come out soaring!

like

Not a lie if you were a cpa

like

I am sorry to hear this but also sorry to say its pretty common. Take any money offered. Try to relax over the holiday as new hiring will not start untill the new year.

like

That's consulting. Good pay, challenging work, travel opportunities, but if the music stops and you don't have a chair, you become dead to them. You need to understand this if you join a consulting firm. It's harsh.

like

Your job is someone else's 5th yacht. firing you gets them a bonus

likeuplifting

Sad but the truth

like

Don't take it personally! Unfortunately, this is the business world. We are not seen as people, just numbers, and we can't always turn into assets. :( The same thing happened to me six years ago at another company. After 9 years working there, some promotions, with no real reason, I got fired. It was the end of the year, and I had already bought tickets for my entire family to Disney. Luckily, I found another job within a month. With your experience in this big company, I’m confident you’ll find success in this new journey. Keep your mind free and don’t worry too much!

like

Your work depends on project/customer volume. Work runs dry and they try to move who they can to healthy accounts. Most of the remaining staff get laid off.

It is a good name, hopefully you made friends along the way. It's not personal, just a cash flow exercise.

likesmart

Sorry to hear it. It is common to layoff in Nov or Dec so their expenses look better looking towards next year. We all work “at will” in the US (varies a little by state). I was given 4 hours to clean up my work and then my work computer bricked itself and I lost all network access. I found it very insulting. I was working on a project directly for the CEO ( one of the wealthiest people in the world). It felt like they thought so little of my work, they didn’t even want copies. I hear my incompetent manager tried de-commit my work for the CEO and was sharply told it was her problem to solve.

like

I was laid off a year ago last October from a company I worked for 25 years. Was told my position had been eliminated, but curiously we had just hired another team member in Romania and told to hand off my assigned work to them. Loyalty and hard work mean nothing to the Tech Industry any more. They only see us a human capital and want to pay as little as possible for top talent. We need to incentivize companies to retain USA workers and get back to businesses growing their headcount in the country.

like

Same happened to me last month. Was with a public tech company for three years and was let go exactly on the 3rd anniversary date, supposedly to get offered a larger severance. Was informed by Teams meeting and given a few hours before laptop access was removed.

I agree with most of the comments posted. It's business, numbers matter, and they always will. It's for the better, take time to recharge, and pursue your passion next year. The Deloitte brand is exceptionally strong so that and your network should be helpful. Hang in there and keep your head up!

like

Employment is always "at will" and one can be let go for any reason at any time as long as the employer can make it job-related.

On the positive side, you are freed up to pursue other opportunities and may be able to file for unemployment insurance.

On the negative side, you are unemployed and don't know where your next job is, which gets even more scary the longer your period of unemployment goes on.

If you are young, getting that next job will be easy, but if you are older, it may take longer to find that next job, especially if you are well established in your career.

By letting you go, your employer just handed you options and opportunities--how you pursue them is up to you.

like

If in the US, easily can file for unemployment. After 6 mos, if you have no job, you can also file for medical assistance (medicare, medicaid). Paid into the system for 25 years....learned how to take advantage of it when times were rough for me.

like

They knew weeks ago to let you go. It's unfortunate how they do things now. Keep pushing forward.

like

I put in 24 years at Jpmorgan and my coworker put in 25 years. Lots of dedication,hard work and overtime, but they ended up moving our jobs to Argentina and putting us out on the street. Welcome to corporate America! 

like

You were 25 years there, 25! what were you expecting? To die there?

Related Posts

Any advice on how to pick the best company for me when offered a position from more than 1 company? I've been interviewing extensively with 4 companies, and I believe 2 are getting ready to send offers. If I receive more than 1 offer - how do I choose? I compared benefits, pros/cons, compared them on Glassdoor, questioned them about growth opportunities, asked about their culture.....anything I am missing? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

likeuplifting

Currently interviewing for corporate development manager at a PE portco and would appreciate insight on reasonable comp expectations. TEV is ~$4b and they close about a dozen LMM deals per year. TIA!

like

Rough TC benchmark for mid level corp dev (mix of m&a and strategy) role at a midsize private co in Toronto?
Lots of data on US corp dev TC, but not much for Toronto

likehelpful

Currently applying to Protiviti. How much better are chances of getting a interview with a referral?

If it's a lot better, would someone be open to letting me put their name down on my application?

like

Anyone hiring any jr/mid level art directors in New York?

like

Any advise on best course of action for case in which manager intentionally blocks promo opportunity (on different team) so they can keep you in role. And then claim that you are not ready for promo (after they initially were all about you being ready)?

like

Is the difference between big 4 and MBB in compensation huge at top levels (SM and up)?

likefunny

What’s the difference between a program manager and product manager at Amazon? Is comp different?

like

Can someone please let me know what is the maximum salary that Deloitte India offers to Consultant?
YOE : 4.5
Current offer from Deloitte: 16 fixed
Offer from another MNC: 18.9 fixed

Will Deloitte India be able to match the offer if I renegotiate?

like

Please help to choose between below-
tcs 22 lpa for BFSI support project
Mastercard 21.45 lpa as senior biz ops role.
YOE 9.9 years

like

Anyone have any for tips on transitioning from US private sector to practicing law in Europe for a non profit? I am US/EU citizen and qualified in US and UK via QLTS.

Hi,
My HR discussion with
Cognizant is scheduled.
Is this going to be a salary discussion or questions like strength and weakness, why do you want to join etc?

So, how about folks on the engineering side, management in particular. TOC, YOE?

I've posted before:
DIr. of Architecture and Engineering
20 YOE as of this year
180k TC (160 base + bonus)

Work in a private software house in the GTA.

likehelpful
like

Hi All,

What should be the salary expectations of a 3.8 years experienced, post graduate, ISTQB certified QA Engineer? I am under salary negotiation with a company and need suggestions. My current in-hand CTC is 6.5 LPA.

like

When Office is opening in Ericsson
I hv got a offer from there
Please tell

Salary for social media strategist, NY, 3 years experience?

like

I had a very positive experience interviewing with Amazon for an L5 Technical Writer role. I originally applied for a lower level writing role, ending up acing my Loop, and was passed on to speak to the hiring manager for the L5 role.

Given the positive tone of our conversation, I expect to receive an offer this week.

Can somebody tell me what kind of base salary/bonus/RSU ranges I should aim for? I'm transitioning to tech and have 10+ years of professional writing experience. PNW based.

like

Isn't it possible to have a conversation with hiring manager in Amazon before joining. I tried to have a catch up with him regarding my roles and responsibilities, but my manager denied. I was told , that I will be only able to interact with him after joining. Now I am starting to give a second thought about joining Amazon.
Should I drop the offer?

More Posts

Any tips on how to quantify work as an EA? I’m having trouble with this part but I’ve heard it’s necessary. Also what would be considered a KPI for an EA? That’s not something we tracked at my last job. TIA!

like

How is LTI pune shivajinagar in terms of infrastructure and facilities?

I've got some friends who work remote jobs, and every day I grow more jealous of them during my one-hour commute.

like

What is with people not knowing how to read signs? We have a huge one that says “NO CASH ALLOWED” and I still get asked almost everyday if we take cash

like

Hi,
My HR discussion with
Cognizant is scheduled.
Is this going to be a salary discussion or questions like strength and weakness, why do you want to join etc?

TECH STACK - SAP BASIS
YOE - 10.8
CURRENT CTC - 27

Cleared interview with HCL. How much can I get, I'm expecting above 35LPA. Is HCL GOOD FOR SAP BASIS profile?

like

Any Data Scientists out here working at Nagarro...?

This bowl is crickets and I think we should make it much bigger. Anybody have any ideas how to get more people in his bowl?

like

So, how about folks on the engineering side, management in particular. TOC, YOE?

I've posted before:
DIr. of Architecture and Engineering
20 YOE as of this year
180k TC (160 base + bonus)

Work in a private software house in the GTA.

likehelpful

Mastercard provides iPhone to new joiners ? If yes at which specific level ?

Post Photo
like
like

What was discussed in the townhall today

Hi All,

What should be the salary expectations of a 3.8 years experienced, post graduate, ISTQB certified QA Engineer? I am under salary negotiation with a company and need suggestions. My current in-hand CTC is 6.5 LPA.

like

How many emails do you think it’s realistic to write per day?

Imagine each email requiring SL, Preview text, and then 3-5 blocks (each consisting of an HL, line or two of body copy, and a CTA)

Happy Pride, all y’all 🌈🐠🐟🌈 out here!

like

From Sunday night. SpaceX launch in LA taken from Seattle.

Post Photo
like

What does col a /=/ ‘ONE’ :: “VARCHAR” do in Netezza. Join or checks for null or match to ONE ?

How can I use the same in Oracle database? Any suggestions

like

Hi sharks,

I have 4.3yrs experience in IT and current ctc is 11.7LPA.
How much max ctc i can ask during my switch
Technology- Mulesoft

like

Is there anyone who works at SOTI Canada? I’ve an interview coming up. Need some advice.

like

Additional Posts in Tech

This weekend flew by smh. Can't believe it's about to Monday already

like

Any advise on best course of action for case in which manager intentionally blocks promo opportunity (on different team) so they can keep you in role. And then claim that you are not ready for promo (after they initially were all about you being ready)?

like

Any advice on moving from L4 to L5 in Amazon?

like

What does a 30% travel requirement mean in a job description? How often do they expect the candidate to travel ?

like

Working as a Product Manager in industrial sector, want to transition into tech Product Management

Do I need to have any certifications related to tech?
Any suggestions?

like

What’s the salaries for network architect these days ?

like

What are your thoughts on the Scrum Master role? I’ve worked with a few now and out of 5 of them, only 1 seemed to be of any help. Most of the time we have to explain every detail multiple times and they still don’t understand what we’re doing. I feel that the role should be reserved for employees with experience in the systems they work in.

like

If anyone knows of any good fully remote LMS prospects, please let me know since I'm looking now. Thanks in advance. I have 13 years experience.

like

Does Coinbase send welcome gifts / swag to new hires during the first week?

funny

Account management role at Google or product management role at Facebook? (Entry level)

like

Any favorite go-to online prep resources for an Amazon interview? I have one on Monday and from what the recruiter told me, it’ll be a whirlwind of questions. Thanks in advance!

like

Resigned from my job for blatant racism last week. Been a contingent worker for 6 months. The manager that recruited me unfortunately left after a couple weeks and went to another company. She however recommended me for the permanent opportunity to higher management. The acting manager came in, permanent role was posted, I applied, interviewed……manager told me they chose someone else external for the role. I could sense the manager had no intentions to hire me permanently

like

I just turned in my dates for a google interview for software engineer manager, does any one have any advice on any of the 5 interviews and how long the process normally takes? and would any one like to give a refferal? Thank you so much!

like

When FAANG companies are hiring for UX Design positions do they count all of your general design YOE or only the YOE in a UX role ?

like

Guys - A seasoned BSA looking for PO / PrM opportunities in asset and wealth management firms. Is anyone willing to refer me to their team or forward me to their acquaintances? Appreciate it.

like

Been trying to find a new job because $112k just doesn't seem right for 3+ years as an Eng 3. On the east coast wanting to move out to California. Not getting many bites. Do employers ignore applications for people who would need to relocate?

likefunny

I have a counter offer with more package than the Microsoft. Do they have a policy of blacklist the candidate if I change my mind after accepting the offer?

like

I feel like there are more people engaging on professional networking platforms (like this one) right now. I'm wondering what will happen when all goes back to normal. Do you think people will still stay this connected?

like

Is it a bad idea to leave tech and try something else if I want to go back to tech eventually? For context I have the opportunity to move to London and pivot into a new field for me but the job is at an agency. I know I’d want to eventually go back to tech but paranoid it’ll be more difficult - thoughts?

like

How is mechanical engineering at places like Microsoft Google Facebook (Meta)? How's work life balance and salary, compared to the defense industry?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal