So my boss is worthless and everyone knows it. She is so far out of the loop of the product we are developing and brings no value.

While annoying honestly I can deal with this.

However the issue comes with her not being included on things because of the above and then getting mad at me that I am included on things. How do you deal with a boss that seems threatened by and jealous of you?
It's not my fault I push to be involved in things and because she is so useless she gets forgotten about

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Then just include her? Even if she just sits there and listens, that alone would benefit your team since she’s a bit more in the loop now and might actually bring value (at least by not asking about things that others already know)? I honestly don’t see how that’s not a simple and straight forward solution without more context.

It is challenging navigating through things in a big company without guidance and help, I think your have reasons to be proud of yourself and feel disappointed by her. Just help her and include her as a team even if she’s underperforming as a manager. That makes you a bigger person not smaller.

Good luck OP.

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You are if you don’t make any effort to include her, it takes .5 seconds to add her to an email chain or meeting invite. “Looping my team in for awareness on this effort” is all you have to say.

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She’s still your boss and deserves respect. It isn’t an out of reach request that she wants to be looped in on what’s going on with her team. Unless she’s used the words “I’m jealous of you and threatened by you”, she’s just managing you.

In my experience, when my leaders are succeeding and I go the extra effort to make their job easier; this has directly correlated to better job opportunities and work environment for me.

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I see a glaring opportunity for you to embrace your role as a SME on the product you’re developing and partner with your leader to provide reverse mentorship to help her learn. When you control the narrative to leadership, then you have the best opportunity to influence. Be optimistic, focus on working in harmony. Respect everyone for their strengths and opportunities. It’s okay if you have to help your boss sometimes. If you can work to connect people vs. point fingers at who is not doing what, then you might be the boss someday too.

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I can relate. Although my boss isn’t completely worthless. She does fall short a lot in many things though but she managed to promote me a few years back as well as get me a lot more $ this year during bonus and merit increase time. She tends to keep me and my team at arm’s length with projects and discussions that impact us. When none of us are represented or have a seat at the table, she has no idea of the impact their decisions have made for her team nor does she speak up. She also doesn’t get the correct message across in those meetings so many times, something that could take 2 minutes to figure out ends up going in circles over 3 days. It gets truly frustrating when you have to manage your boss to keep her straight of the discussion. I’m basically spoon feeding her the answers in her meetings so it is really annoying that she doesn’t just include me in the mtg. I have started to push back and sometimes if I have availability I will just ask her to forward the mtg invite to me so I can attend. So yeah, I can relate.

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I can absolutely relate as well. My boss is awckward, unprofessional, childish, innapropriate, extremely hard to follow (cannot comunicate), and not respected by neither his team nor his peers. I am bored out of my mind without work to do because he hoards them all to himself / is affraid of doing the management part of his job and instead does what his team is supposed to be doing. I’ve thought of quitting many times, because of how frustrated I am. I am looking, but market is really bad right now.

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Why is your boss out of the loop on your work?

Either change jobs or start including your boss. Your perspective is narrow and you are not able to leverage your boss to your benefit

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