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Hello fellow Fishes I have an offer from persistent. Need some clarity on same. I want to know the grade system in persistent. What does 7.1 mean? Is 7.1 a right fit for an total experience of 10+ years? What is the appropriate CTC for an architect designation? I want to know if I am getting it as per experience.
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Ask for clear success criteria, as in what would have to happen for it to turn into a perm role. Otherwise it’s just a shot in the dark and you take way too much risk
Being hired doesn’t guarantee anything either. US employees are employee at will. Can be hired and fired after 3 months too.
100% stay at mck.
Don’t leave and keep the startup on your radar
If anyone offered me that, I would put them on my blacklist immediately. If a company won’t have my best interests in mind when they are wooing me to join, what will they be like when you are yet another at-will employee?
Mentor
That’s a hard no… with your credentials you’ll find a permanent exit without the 3-6 month ‘trial’ BS
I totally agree
Don’t leave McK. what if they bait and switch and don’t need you for more than 3 months!
Don’t do it. The startup market is so hot you really don’t need to do that
Coach
This sounds like a thing where they aren't sure if you will provide value (giving themselves an out after 3-6 months) and/or they don't know if they can justify your expenses to their operations. Would you be able to provide tangible and quantifiable results to justify your continued employment?
If I were you, I would stay with McK.
I truly wonder what goes through leadership’s and hr’s minds when making an offer as stupid as this.
Say no
Stay in McK. Get designated. Exit for a better opportunity
Mentor
100% don’t leave until you are an EM
Enthusiast
Don’t do it
Chances are they don’t have budget to hire you for long term.
Hell no
If you’re interested, see if mck will let you do an LOA or treat this as a secondment. Then have the startup fix the time frame. If they want to be uncommitted you should approach with the same mind. Then, at the end of 6 months you’ll still have the power as you still have mck to go back to. If the start up still wants you, now they’ll have to sell you (which will likely come with a bigger offer), and worst case is you got a new experience and go back to consulting without having to risk your career
Ask them what will change in 3 months, if they want to try you out, ensure culture fit .etc see if you can achieve that by any other way like moonlighting, small project work .etc
Stay at McK. If the startup wants you, they will find a way to commit to you via a standard full time offer. And start getting mentally prepared to part ways. When you become EM, your price tag will increase dramatically, but your value add to the startup will not, which may price you out
If you’re a BA, didn’t you get an offer to return? It’d be a hassle to leave and come back in a couple months, but in theory it’s doable without having to re-interview.
I don’t disagree with those saying to stay at McK, but I left consulting in December to go to a late stage startup. We continue to be in such hyper-growth mode that we will sometimes bring people on as contractors and then convert them because the hiring process for FTE takes too long. Given you went through the interview rounds, it may need be the same situation where you interviewed.
All this would do is create a situation where the employer has all of the negotiating leverage.
After the ‘contractor period’ OP would be forced to take their offer (if they make an offer) or be out on the job market without a check.
In this circumstance they’ll offer table scraps, lousy comp, no equity.
I’d never sign up for this.