Struggling hard with what to do. Managed to negotiate with my current company to match an offer I got that was $30K more - I currently make $90K so this would be a nice bump. However they said I basically need to hit some arbitrary performance thresholds in the next 2 months or I'd be knocked down to my previous salary. The new company is decent, but the work seems boring and don't know how much I'd like it. Leaning towards staying and risking it, but not sure if that's a bad idea!

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Go to the new company; this arbitrary performance goal will be unobtainable. Always move forward in job opportunities.

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Don’t stay. The conditional raise is complete crap.

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Sounds like a trap.

Why did you want to leave in the first place? I wouldn't accept the terms and conditions.

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Yup sounds like a trap

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People usually get a significant raise like this when they are already performing at a higher level or the company fully recognizes that the person isn't being paid fair market value. Being tied to a performance metric like this feels very intentional, as if they know you are likely to not hit the mark, and if/when you do, they will move the goalpost again.

Take the new job.

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Several areas of concern here, one if this is an increased in compensation you should receive a letter and sign it accepting it, if they are wanting to match the comp it should be for what you contribute today not with strings, I would not accept the terms and I would find it insulting and move into the other company and make it less boring with innovation

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Take the 30% raise and leave. Let your current company reach out in a year with +50%.

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They are setting you up to fail. They already know you have a foot out the door. If you accept and don't meet this. They don't give you the bump and you quit. They are off the hook for severance and unemployment if they let you go.
The target is already on your back for the next round of layoffs.

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There's evidence that the highest earners switch jobs every 2-3 years. IME, the people that stay at a company too long really handicap themselves, not only compensation-wise, but also in terms of their skills and network.

That said, if you want to stay, don't let the performance threshold be arbitrary: make sure it's quantifiable with numbers no one can debate, and also make sure the threshold is something you're confident you can attain: otherwise run.

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I don't have to read anymore. Screw them and move on brother or sister whatever the case may be.

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Never stay. Move on.

I’d leave. Unless there’s a substantial difference in benefits or something that keeps you at your current job. I feel like they will scrutinize your no matter how awesome your performance is.

Bad idea

I would take any risk, so I would have just submitted my notice and leave asap

Definitely take the risk, the conditional offer is garbage

Just out of curiosity, im trying to go beyond Glassdoor market research for salary. And do a little of my own. You're an Analyst? Financial? How many years of experience do you have?
What state do you live/work in?

How are they arbitrary? Are they within your control?

If you want to stay, you need to meet those objectives, or the liklyhood of a raise in the future is limited. If you can do them, and they are objective and within ypur control, great! If not, time to go.

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