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As an extreme introvert, all of those things you listed out are burnout increasers lol
Agree with these so much. Having to “fake it” as an introvert is absolutely exhausting. Before I came to McK I joined a fully remote boutique firm and got promoted within 7 months of starting (even though joining was already a promotion) because everyone was remote and there was no travel. Not having to do team dinners and/or happy hours every week as the bare minimum gave me a lot more energy to pump into both my project work and internal initiatives (as well as still being able to have free time). When I leave here I’m going to actively try to never have to go into an office regularly ever again.
The relationships I have with my clients and team that have been remote only aren’t nearly as good as those where we were in person / traveling together.
C1, SSA1, I see what you’re saying but it’s not necessarily the alcohol. People grab drinks before a dinner date because it’s fun and it breaks the ice. People are more loose. It’s not the alcohol and you don’t need it but many people enjoy it and it’s fun—that is the key aspect to relationship building
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Connected to my team and job, but not the company, though that's because I'm not the drink the Kool aid type. I've been remote for eight years; in my experience, burnout comes from being overworked, not working remotely. Having to work 16+ hour days for a few weeks on end is going to suck and burn you out whether you are in the office or at home.
As an extrovert, this totally makes sense. I’ve dealt with depression due to the loneliness of working from home. Those activities you described actually fuel me, and I think would help me get out of this state. But now I feel kind of bleh.
I’m extroverted and being remote the past two years has honestly destroyed my mental health. Work is terrible, no interaction or daily wins in conversation, no chemistry with anyone or ability to feed off peoples body language. I developed social anxiety because I don’t flex that muscle with casual conversation as much. I work next to my bed all day in an apartment with my roommate that does the same.I hate working from home. If it wasn’t for the gym I would be an absolute mess
I do- but only because most of the team is remote and I (mostly) don’t feel excluded from in-person event and activities. We take time on our calls to be “human” and genuinely connect
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Been remote for about five years now. At my previous company the majority of my team were remote or distributed across 6-7 offices so it was anyway as if we were all remote. They were good at being human on calls and such, we probably had the best team calls (playing music to start and end, fun ways to get through work discussions etc) so that made it not just bearable but in fact enjoyable. Since moving to KPMG, I’ve noticed there’s less humanity on a day to day basis, but our partner is a fun character and makes it a point to have a no work call once every 2-3 weeks, I have random conversations with a couple team members here and there so it’s not too bad.
Like someone else said, burnout is a function of time rather than fun conversations. So even if remote, if you can manage hours then you’ll be fine. For an introvert those “redeeming” aspects of socializing etc are actually very exhausting. Doing it virtually makes it a lot easier.
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Mostly it took away the needs to get dressed and commute just to Zoom anyway worth a global team. It also took away the inconvenience of not being able to see the white board or get a word in when you are remote. Overall win win.
Yes I do feel connected and happy. D allows you to go into the office when you want so I just make a concerted effort to go in occasionally and attend the events we do have. I think the other key if you’re an extrovert is just to ensure you have some human interaction. If you are fully WFH with no office and colleagues in other cities, make sure you’re scheduling time with friends and family, go to concerts or fairs, join a club or workout group, etc. I’ve found that as long as I get that social interaction somewhere, I can be happy with my team and work, even if that element isn’t there.
I’ve been fully remote for 2+ years (across two different jobs). I do still feel connected to my team and company, as we have various social events — sometimes I proactively organize those myself. People loove free food/drinks and free fun activities! Plus I travel to the work site every 3 months or so, which is a good way to strengthen bonds.
That said, I do enjoy the independence/separation that WFH has afforded. I’m not worried about being pressured into a random week night team dinner, etc.
Me too. It’s awful. I’m actually on medication until I get my old self back. Have you thought about looking for a job with an in office component? I finally decided to start looking for that. My mental health is more important than my job.