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Let me be real with you new guy. All these firms have pockets of toxicity. Idk what thread you read, but after 5 years in this industry I find most people think EY is on the nicer end. I mostly hear good things about EY . EY has mostly a decent reputation of having reliable nice people. Deloitte everyone consistently trashes for their hostile and abusive culture. I would take the offer as this thread might not be your experience
I agree - pockets of toxicity in every org. I worked at D for a number of years, and it was a wonderfully supportive environment for me. Unless OP had read feedback about his specific offering/ team, I would proceed with accepting the role.
It really depends on the teams and the people you choose to surround yourself with.
The level of toxicity depends on your local team. A sure thing is that it’s a grind; but it is definitely worth it to kickstart or boost your career. The opportunities you get from having a Big 4 in your CV are unique.
I think that as long as you have a clear goal you will be fine. It could be getting your CPA and jumping ship as a Senior or staying until Partner. It’s something you can evaluate every 2 years you spend on the firm.
I echo what everyone said above. However I had been with EY, and the other 2 Big 4: PwC and KPMG. I’ve never been with Deloitte so I can’t speak about them (although I heard it’s quite an aggressive/cut-throat environment, but take this with a grain of salt). I do have to say EY is the worst compared to PwC and KPMG. They have this culture of long hours without purpose (usually caused by lack of care, poor planning and haphazard approach in managing engagements), e.g, a lot of instructions from the seniors are to just copy paste last year’s work paper without caring to educate the juniors the purpose of the task and what it’s all about. Also they’re the only firm who love using contract employees the most (read: cheapskate strategies to win clients as they can drive down cost but no investment for staff). If you’re contract staff: you’re f**ked. What’s incredible is I have been with 2 different EY offices in 2 different countries in two different stages of my career (15 yrs apart) but guess what- the culture is exactly the same. Amazing how consistent the crooked global tone at the top is in this firm. If this is not a red flag, I don’t know what is.
You don’t ask but I like PwC the most - for the most part the culture is healthy and fair, they care about quality and they always seek to enhance and improve their processes, internally and externally for their clients. They’re not cheap, they charge more to their clients but they also pay their staff better. Kpmg is PwC wannabe but last time I was with them they’re 1-2 steps behind in terms of processes and systems. Again, take all of this with a grain of salt. There will be nuances depending on which team and partner you work with. As an aside, I’m no longer with any of these firms. No more timesheets for me :-) good luck!
If you know what your getting into with Tech Risk, it’s a wonderful place to work. Culture is top tier imo and the people are all nice. I haven’t met a single person I didn’t like working with. I’m a staff for reference, every senior has been incredibly helpful and always willing to lend a hand.
Every job will have some level of toxicity, whether you’re at Big 4, regional, mid-tier, or even industry. Coming from someone who’s worked in all mentioned.
It’s just up to you and your boundaries and if you’re willing to work through that BS and benefit from the experience.
I've been at other Big 4 firms too, and I think EY is the least toxic. Of course, there are toxic idiots everywhere, but given my experience there are less of them at EY. YMMV.
Dont focus so much on the toxicity and keep an eye on your growth. When your growth stops (because of toxic ppl or not), move to the next firm.
I've worked across 3 different countries, 2 diff continents and half a dozen employers so far. Every single time I've found people/areas to be toxic while at the same time having people that were decent and pleasure to work with. So the moral of the story is: no one can really say what your individual experience will be with the team you'll be hired into.
It’s different teams that have toxic natures I’ll admit my team is SUPER toxic however other teams aren’t
Every workplace or job has something toxic in their culture. It's not EY alone. It depends on the area and department you work with including the team.
What’s your definition of toxic OP?
What service line?