What IS okay to lie about in a job interview? For background, my current company has some pretty unethical practices and the product is horrible. PMs are never allowed to own product strategy, only exec. So, I lied a bit about owning product strategy even though 90% of the time I wasn’t allowed to and I had to carry out some pretty bad initiatives.

I know people are going to say I should have been truthful but there’s no way I would have gotten the job if I was.

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How many people are actually honest during interviews 😆 I think most people are guilty of embellishing a litte bit. Don't beat yourself up

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Consider this…how many times have you taken a job and the key elements described in it are not what you end up actually doing?
Companies are bigger frauds than you realize.

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It is very common for product to not own real strategy and just implement orders from above. I would not lie unless you owned it in the past and know how to do it. Lying comes back and bites you- even if where you are sucks.

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In most modern organisations there are seldom single points of ownership for anything. An ex-boss's advice to me was to 'own it' regardless... assuming you had a material stake in it in the first place

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I am Exhibit A of this

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Think of your interview as a sales pitch for your product. You can promise and sell anything you can do.

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Right. I wasn’t out here saying I could write Python, just some small twists of the truth

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I’m definitely on the side of “honesty is the best policy.” I think you can readily imagine being in the shoes of the interviewer. We hire this person thinking there is some experience in this aspect of product management but no…all they learned to do is BS about a product and their experience building it. If I were interviewing, I think I could figure this out pretty quickly, except for discovering the worst sociopaths.

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But isn't bullshitting part of the job anyway so you'd still be demonstrating some level of skill 😉? I'm only half joking - start-ups often have to massively inflate stats/figures just to have a chance of getting more investment. Equally, there's an element of bullshit / hope / fingers crossed every time you're trying to influence stakeholders and explain why you're prioritising something because e.g 'X' size of growth opportunity, we can do all of our research but we never know 100% if customers will actually buy / prefer our product based on 'X' new feature.

This is far more common than you realize. Many product managers just coordinate launches and produce requirements for deliverables that are handed to them. It happens especially if your product has a lot of tech debt and you’re constantly in reactive mode. In most cases I think it’s a bad idea to lie about qualifications, but you’re right: If you admitted you never actually defined the roadmap, you’ll lose out on jobs to people who lie cheerfully.

Yes. this. exactly this.

This is far more prevalent than we realize. You will okay as long as you are able to comfortably own the strategy after you get the offer. All the best!

I always drive the speed limit on the freeway. 😜

I think it’s ok to say you had ownership of something like product strategy as long as you can defend why the decisions were made. If you disagree with the decisions that were made and think you could have prioritized better, but never actually implemented any of your ideas because you weren’t allowed to, I think you’ll find yourself going down a slippery slope of suggesting you had better ideas but having no validation or proof.

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