12 yoe mba, pmp,cleared and living in Northern Virginia. Have both technical and management experience. Making 120ish right now and feel very underpaid. What kind of opportunities should I look for? I have family here so prefer in the DMV area. I saw Amazon has some cleared jobs but not sure they want super technical or some technical is good. Is there a position or title I should aim for or they gauge my experience? Other suggestions welcome too. I am not greedy but not complacent either. Thank

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Just another voice chiming in to confirm you're way underpaid with that clearance level and experience. Start testing the market and look at small/medium size companies, as well as tech.

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Don’t worry about what your current company would do. I have 4 YOE and I’m making 120k in Northern VA with not-as-good credentials. Let that be the fire under your butt to get paid what you’re worth.

Agree with everyone: go get paid. And your firm/ project would dump you in a second if they had too.

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Booz pays less for non-technical and the same or more for technical. wlb and corporate culture/ethics are considerably better. Opps for promotion are average.

Smaller contractors can get you close to 200k. Find one desperate enough.

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C2 - what firm/company are you at making 140k without a clearance?

Yea me too .. there’s plenty of opportunities and your underpaid. If your willing to go to a much smaller company you’ll only do staff augmentation of course but they will pay you more. Go on clearencejobs.com and you’ll get pummeled from people with open positions.

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Yeah you can get 160-200+ .. uncle D is cheap and I would never work for them. At the end of the day we all do the same work, for the same agencies, it’s about maximizing pay in my mind because we’re not gov and don’t have the authority to make internal changes, so we just facilitate the established processes in place, might as well make $$.

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Doesn't matter how badly your project needs you. It only matters how much money they have. And if they can't pay a market rate for your skills, don't take it personally -- just take your skills elsewhere. But confirming, underpaid for sure, even without a clearance, just in the general field you could make more in non clearance jobs too.

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This reminds me of the time when D offered less than $120k for SC (also tssci poly, MBA, 11 YOE). I almost laughed in the recruiter’s face but then I realized they weren’t joking. 🤷‍♂️ honestly I don’t know how they get people to join at salaries soooo much lower than what the market is paying.

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They did the same with my buddy. 10 yoe, undergrad and master's degrees in economics, very strong quantitative / programming skills and experience. Offer: $90k in DC.

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Honestly, you'd likely even make more as a GS.

Assuming you're a SC, you're underpaid; assuming you're a M, you're substantially underpaid.

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I’m making ~270k with 8 YoE, living in DC. If you’re interested in strategy consulting (albeit longer hours than federal.. likely worse culture as well) send me a PM :)

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S& 1 how bad are your hours? And are you an M or SM?

What clearance level?

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Dang dude. Second what others are saying about clearancejobs, you’ll get pummeled with requests and will be able to weigh multiple offer. But yeah, this is inexcusably low pay. Don’t worry about your current project, just start documenting what you can as you prep for your exit and start interviewing.

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My friend was offered 90k at D with a TS/SCI out of undergrad starting at C. He was technically an experienced hire. Mantech pays 100k with a Business Analytics background (basically know Python and R) and TS/SCI out of undergrad 0-4 YOE.

The first is anecdotal since he leveraged another offer from ACN, but the second is true across the board for Mantech. They mostly work within IC.

I agree, you should be paid more with the YOE, clearance, and degree.

Just commenting to say I misread pmp as pimp at first lol

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