Anyone else feel like the real effects of the pandemic are being felt now in education more so than before?

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Honestly, i dont think what we are dealing with has anything to do with the pandemic. I think kids are apathetic, parents dont care, parents run the admin and superintendents so kids aren’t disciplined and think they can just do whatever they want. I was talking to a teacher today who said she told the principal that some kids were in the cafeteria when they shouldnt be and the kids told the principal why cant i be here? The audacity of some of these kids is insane and i dont think it has anything to do with the pandemic.

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NYMS1 I have no problem with spanking kids in love. If done correctly will not be done often or for long. These kids these days have no discipline and see no need to listen or follow directions. Now when you give a student “the look” they give it right back to you.

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Truthfully, it wasn't just the pandemic. A lot of these problems in education already existed—from the low literacy levels to lack of retention, and behavior issues—the pandemic just made us all more aware of these problems.

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I have started to believe that the kids acclimated to one-on-one attention and instant gratification at home during the pandemic. The regularity in which kids will walk right in front of me to ask a question while I’m addressing the class is just confounding. It seems less prevalent in the older grades, but in the middle school and 9th grade there still seems a bigger lack of awareness and appropriate social/coping skills than I ever remember seeing before.
Whether or not the pandemic played a hand, there is most definitely a sense of heightened audacity, both in kids and with some parents.

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I've noticed this same thing but never actually thought about why. I'm going to have to really crack down on this in the Spring. The amount of times I've said "I know you hear me talking because I can hear you over me" is insane. Or just coming up and talking when I'm clearly talking to someone else. Part of could be social media and being able to just say whatever whenever and not having to wait your turn.

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The audacity level has skyrocketed for sure but also the emotional issues and lack of attention. The low reading, writing, and comprehension skills seem to also be at a high. Everything just kind of feels disjointed. It’s like now that we are a couple of years out, everyone is suddenly ready to “deal” with the trauma of it and they are all struggling BIG TIME.

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^Bravo!

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The effects of the pandemic are still largely hidden. While I hate the term "learning loss," that is exactly what we have. Kids who were in eighth grade when the pandemic hit are woefully lacking skills. We assumed they learned them by osmosis or something, but they sure are lacking things like addition and subtraction, capitalization and the like.

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Nope, finally coming out the other side!

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Yes! My job as an RSP teacher has gotten much more difficult and overwhelming! Kids in each group at so many different levels, it’s impossible to meet all their needs, even with two adults. 😔

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I have seen more students at the elementary level who cannot regulate their emotions! We are spending a lot of the day working on social skills - how to speak to people, using your words instead of putting your hands on others, how to handle changes in the schedule, spacial awareness…

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Same thing is happening at the high school level!

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Would you be more specific of which effects are you referring to?

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Like others have commented, I’m not sure it’s because of the pandemic or because computers invited us into the child’s home and family, which was opening to say the least. As teachers we’ve had front row seats to parents excusing behavior, making excuses for their child’s lack of motivation and dedication to academics, and parents being unbelievably obtuse about why their child is not successful in the classroom or socially. It’s almost like they don’t know them. I believe that parents want to be their child’s friend; to make their child happy at any cost, hence all the excuses. The parents are tired because of work, and don’t want to help manage their child’s school life, so all that responsibility falls on the teacher and the district. Be gone consequences or accountability of the student! This is the reason we are seeing reduced mastery of skills and the overall audacity of kids to call all the shots. The parents have handed them this responsibility. Until parents start taking responsibility, this will not change. Before I retired (two years ago) I tried to explain to the parents that they were not doing their child any favors by not monitoring the academic life of their child. This fell on deaf ears and some parents even pushed back. Parents need to hear this regardless of how angry they get. I was willing to take the heat. Unfortunately, I was one of the only ones to wanted to do this. Does anyone else see this???

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Yes. They have abdicated the raising of their child to schools, and then complain if the kid is reading books they don’t like, the kid is failing classes, the kid doesn’t know how to adult, etc. Parenting is really hard, and parents don’t want to do the hard work of raising their kids.

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At my elementary school there are about 5 students with behaviors that are so extreme (3 of them in my grade level which is 5th grade) that “if they were gone the whole school would be entirely different.” (Quote from my principal to district admin)

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Our biggest problem is cell phones. Kids may have become more addicted to them in the isolation of the pandemic, but using that as an excuse doesn't cut it.

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