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Did 4 rounds of interviews. Last 2 with 2 partners at EY. Haven’t heard back even after 1 month. One partner even commented “you will be a good addition to the team”. Hiring manager gave EY email after her interview call with me.
Fast forward two weeks, no communication. Recruiting was surprised that I was still chasing for this position, month later. Got to know last week that hiring team was continuing to interview candidates. Should I drop the idea to get hired? EY hasn’t rejected me yet.
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Hello ZSers,
I have been shortlisted for AC role and my HR discussion is scheduled next week.
1. Need some insights on the maximum and minimum ctc (fixed and variable) that can be offered for 3 yoe (all relevant) . My current ctc is 7.2 (6.5 fixed) . Tech stack - Big data and AWS developer.
2. Is there any joining bonus. If yes , what should be the ask.
Any inputs will be very helpful for me to go with my expectations to the HR. Thanks!
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I've an overall 9+ years of experience predominantly into training & development and project management. I worked in ecommerce and supplychain industries. Please let me if there's any suitable opening. I'm about to finish my notice period and ready join by 1st week of July.Amazon Tata Consultancy IBM Newco
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Hi! I was a litigator in Detroit, mid sized firm, for 11 years before moving in house. I’m a generalist, small dept, $1.5 annual revenue public company - deputy general counsel, assistant corporate secretary, I’ve been promoted twice in 2.5 years and am making more than I was in the firm. I love it and am happy. Definitely need to find the right boss and right fit, but it’s doable at any stage in your career. I came in at Assistant GC. I met the GC for coffee after finding a company I wanted to join and asking a mutual friend for an introduction.
As far as pitching myself - litigators draft settlement agreements and negotiate all the time. We also have strong oral advocacy skills, strong problem solving skills, and generally aren’t too rattled by high stress environments. Those are all positives and really have come in very handy in house. Honestly, I rely a lot on outside counsel. I also know who is good to call on/does good work from working in firms. I’m billed fairly by them and they prioritize my work bc of our relationship.
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I went in house as Chief legal officer of a ~1 billion company after 20 years in biglaw as a litigator. Took me a few years to find the job and I found it through personal connections. Hardest part of the job search was to stop looking at myself as a litigator instead of an experienced counselor who can handle and resolve all sorts of different issues.
And moving at 6-8 years wouldn’t have helped me find this position.
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I changed everything from how I present my experience in my resume, how I discuss my qualifications to what I’ve done in my career. Litigation was the 3rd or 4th thing I mentioned.
🙋♀️ Moved in house after over 10 years in biglaw. Primarily practiced complex commercial litigation, but I also had a niche specialty and employment law counseling and litigation experience (the niche is completely irrelevant to my current role, other than I have regulatory experience in addition to litigation). In Texas but practiced in the Northeast as well. I also had a fairly national litigation as well as counseling practice so that was a good selling point. I was fairly selective about where I wanted to go, looked off and on for about 2 years, but only seriously searched and applied for about 8 months. I ended up going in house with a firm client as head of litigation.
Some in house departments look to hire partner-level experience - they don’t have time to train or supervise people and need lawyers who can hit the ground running. The biggest challenge is usually comp - very few in house roles will or can pay biglaw partner compensation numbers so you have to be willing to take a pay cut and communicate you understand that.
I have seen a lot of corporate folks going in-house after 10+ years of practice.
- NYC/Chicago
- M/A/Investment Funds
- GC, Senior Counsel, Counsel, Deputy GC, Chief Commercial Officer
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Ditto.
Spent about 10 years in litigation, before first taking a low level attorney role at a large health system and then a senior legal role with a med device company. It took about 1.5 years of searching and work with lots of recruiters, plenty of recommendations. I wasn’t big law and didn’t do commercial lit, but apparently had sufficient health care defense experience that they were willing to take a chance. Good luck!
I didn’t find the transition the the health system as difficult as to the med device field. And believe me, it was a difficult sell. But I tried to show ways I’d been able to branch out my practice to establish that I have the capacity to be trained/learn new areas.
These folks who were job hunting 1.5-2 years are renewing my faith. I've been at it for what feels like forever.
I probably looked and interviewed for 6 years to be honest. But during that time, I worked on building new skills and sought opportunities (such as some transactional and employment work) that I thought a company might be interested in me having and that I thought might help me be a better in house lawyer. Just keep at it and explore your connections.
Me too. Bump.
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Spent 20 years riding real estate deals for REITs and similar funds at a regional firm before being asked by a client (not a REIT, but a player in one of the spaces in which my REIT clients operated) to come work for them as senior counsel to learn the job before my AGC retires, at which point I’m to fill her role.
2 years in and I’m unspeakably happier.