Are senior managers Accenture & Deloitte the same level?

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I’m sure people will cry bias, but in my experience based on people movements across both ways:

Accenture AM associate manager is the same level as Deloitte M

Accenture M in the same level as Deloitte SM

Accenture SM in the same level as Deloitte Director.

I haven’t worked out if Deloitte has directors and managing directors. In Accenture we have both associate directors and managing directors.

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Wrong

Accenture SMs can lead offerings and regions! I think the big 4 SM role is a more stressed out manager. At Accenture SM is really the equivalent of a director/MD (non partner) role at Big 4. Stock options too. I’d take it!

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ACN SM is not the same as B4 MD. Just lol.
Source: Was a B4 SM years ago.

ACN folks will say same level but Deloitte SM expectations and pay are higher on average

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P1 - you sound like you never worked at both.

ACN SM work on multiple accounts, have sales and revenue targets, and manage delivery too. Especially, if they need to make to partner. Heck, as a manager, even I had sales and revenue targets, because I joined at level 3 manager & I had to make it to SM.

SM aid the most hardest position at ACN. Their salaries are competitive, and in some areas, they beat Deloitte . Depends on your negotiating power.

Deloitte can keep saying that they are different.

I now see it as a tactic that some firms use to to hire folks from other firms for cheaper. Oh, your level is lower than ours.
It’s just a brand image that they are trying to keep maintaining.

Btw, I went from ACN Manager to Deloitte SM!!

SM’s at Accenture are on different levels. A SM1 vs a SM8 (due to long pipeline) are two different people with different expectations. It also differs by practice

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In my experience at both firms in the OU I was in—yes, it was the last level before making partner/MD.

That said, I believe it differs between OU at both firms.

Essentially yes since it’s the level before MD or partner.

Yes

Society treats them both the same way

Levles.fyi

Haven’t checked for consulting but I already know it’s impossible. In Accenture we have strategy, consulting, tech, ops, song. They all may as well be different companies with different pay scales

SM = Stressed Manager

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