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The Forbes methodology rewards breadth in functions and industry capabilities so it’s not surprising.

MBB has better talent and pure play strategy but can’t compete in the scale across modern services

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Much more of consulting is shifting to be technology focused and Deloitte and Accenture are the most capable out of the large consulting firms.

When I was in proserv, I had to step in to remediate installs much more frequently for McKinsey and BCG, largely because most of their practitioners lack ground up experience. Most haven't actually developed tech or implemented systems, and so they more regularly over-promise, under-deliver, and require support when testing goes sideways or they try to do too much at once and miss on the smoke or volume test, let along on UAT.

Then there are just the negative stories that have come out recently that paint those two firms in a negative light.

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Can’t really take Forbes seriously anymore.

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Hello les fish,
Des idées de salaires de manager (fixe, bonus, total comp) à Paris en MBB ? J'ai en tête un package autour de 180-200 ça vous semble comment ?

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Bonjour ici !
Je suis un consultant italien avec nationalité française, j'ai été récemment contacté par une MBB et j'envisage de m'installer à Paris depuis le Moyen-Orient où je travaille actuellement.
Y a-t-il quelqu'un qui aimerait entrer en contact et me parler de son expérience?
Merci beaucoup !

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Those who want to join FAANG: don’t you think that the upward mobility is limited? Thousands of super ambitious MBB background people with top credentials joined these firms over the last decade.

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Got an offer from BCN as Associate. Wondering if there are any openings or if anyone here can refer me to other openings in MBB. Looking for options.
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Word to all of you out there, if you trash talk other people within your industry (and clients), they will find out and they soon may be in a position to decide if they want to hire you. Happened to several people I know. When will people learn that egos and talking shit is so outdated. 🙄

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